From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lang.hm; dkim=fail; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=none Received: from mail.lang.hm (wsip-70-167-213-146.ph.ph.cox.net [70.167.213.146]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A44A8E201D0 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2026 19:17:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.2.2.53] (unknown [10.2.2.53]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBB521E6C5; Mon, 16 Mar 2026 11:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 11:17:16 -0700 (MST) From: David Lang To: David Lang cc: Inemesit Affia , Dave Taht via Starlink In-Reply-To: <214q1oq0-02pp-04r9-o695-o496s120315n@ynat.uz> Message-ID: <4r9pqnpo-qpr7-s85p-6o06-7858s2opps83@ynat.uz> References: <64f61ff1-11c2-454c-a5e2-2caaf4b78601@gmail.com> <214q1oq0-02pp-04r9-o695-o496s120315n@ynat.uz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-ID-Hash: RBDJA3AJGOQNYMB5HFAAB67XUP2YP2PZ X-Message-ID-Hash: RBDJA3AJGOQNYMB5HFAAB67XUP2YP2PZ X-MailFrom: david@lang.hm X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: Starlink and user identification especially wrt the Islamic Republic of Iran List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: by the way, there was a more in-depth discussion on the issues a couple months ago when the protests started there. David Lang On Mon, 16 Mar 2026, David Lang via Starlink wrote: > Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 11:11:08 -0700 (MST) > From: David Lang via Starlink > Reply-To: David Lang > To: Inemesit Affia > Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink > Subject: [Starlink] Re: Starlink and user identification especially wrt the > Islamic Republic of Iran > > Starlink, like every other wifi manufacturer is allocated specific addresses > to avoid collisions in the addresses in use. Any new addresses they get > allocated will be well known very quickly. What is it you suggest that they > do? > > but as a matter of common sense, if you are hiding something from your > government, hard-wire where possible, don't use wifi at all. > > David Lang > > > On Mon, 16 Mar 2026, Inemesit Affia via Starlink wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 16:25:21 +0100 >> From: Inemesit Affia via Starlink >> Reply-To: Inemesit Affia >> To: Dave Taht via Starlink >> Subject: [Starlink] Re: Starlink and user identification especially wrt the >> Islamic Republic of Iran >> >> By fixable, I mean fixable by SpaceX, not the end user. I realize not >> everyone has the extra equipment i do. So going straight to "use third >> party routers" is a non >> >> Mar 16, 2026 4:18:57 PM Inemesit Affia : >> >>> I've dropped some comments in the past on other fora but not here. >>> >>> There's a recent issue with user outages in Iran caused by an update. >>> There are individuals with multiple terminals where one is down and the >>> other up. >>> >>> Users should avoid using devices with local apps installed. Avoid Chinese >>> devices if possible (both are telemetry issues) >>> >>> Starlink has RF and heat issues that make it easily identified with the >>> right equipment so you need to hide the device and avoid WiFi transmission >>> (where possible). >>> >>> A piece of plain cloth is enough to hide the heat signature in most cases, >>> especially during the day. But what I've been hearing is Wi-Fi scanners >>> being deployed. Unfortunately Starlink ships not only with a default >>> Starlink name, but like every other WiFi device, identifies it's >>> manufacturer in its transmission which you don't need more than a phone to >>> find. >>> >>> Fortunately that's fixable for the less tech savvy users. If the device >>> identifies it's cell as being in Iran, change the mac one to one mimicking >>> the device of the user or AP's more common in the area. And allow users to >>> limit it's power like I can do on my cheap D-link >>> >>> I'm hopeful for those in the area and I'm glad about the recent shutdown >>> of Russian users in Ukraine. >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list -- starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to starlink-leave@lists.bufferbloat.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list -- starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > To unsubscribe send an email to starlink-leave@lists.bufferbloat.net >