From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x330.google.com (mail-wm1-x330.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::330]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BA2F3B29D for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2023 03:05:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wm1-x330.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-40907b82ab9so2926615e9.1 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2023 00:05:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=connectivitycap.com; s=google; t=1700035546; x=1700640346; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=references:to:cc:in-reply-to:date:subject:mime-version:message-id :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=sNzAZsH+lWlJHPcB/ve4Ussx1RNkdsPQ3kaFcDBnnyc=; b=iXgigMfU4oesHh1VbiYx0CNckg0tcIu2EXtosKnJ/3cBYBGaVCetyY+zDEBe5/7FtF X5/KGSJtSPupsYy9EHrdIOh4MQV3cMz0LnR6OhcQFlf0JIpvdl/56QzTBsd3+Ya7FStp 5/c2UplxtaO8E7K0VbNtRVEdEmPFDnpdtGauq32Sj0+HvCrvux1ninlspGVpio6MzSxo 1gNODFT3weBf9eOihlugaxDtR/9XOdbOW2RmvRcyzgFUE6dnee8nNYwOu8QRW5wX6XpW l3NrOwM9TiiEReUqxd4KLn+cdSgZiVzLIWsbvqAXTk9MwmE3q74yAnkMIOogLQzYV7wR BehQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1700035546; x=1700640346; h=references:to:cc:in-reply-to:date:subject:mime-version:message-id :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=sNzAZsH+lWlJHPcB/ve4Ussx1RNkdsPQ3kaFcDBnnyc=; b=LVbsgXGWd9D1EVQCCjrWgiAM32lVAWO+w7+RmFgHRkuqmqRfr5UYi3XXsxkcicnraZ d83CSSh+NgWOC0n8lnpJvYag7y/yHEa/vN4zBLy1P8AwWT2sSrauX4HaxCVfqf+MAuLc Xa6g6xaRHNmPubseBpZDhBeKgeXkb56yps/JdHRzybbemhNaE6Qa1Eihr93kc2t+xX9F raV3XmwHkuP/HdM7Sey570uqh5eZ1dmFPensqOiz2TdtXdiPK2Wy8qKrjd/Y80lE8/oD SUjmODQJJWfoc1dkd48im+b+F8gVgX1ti+yUA2IWeQMx6o5D724RvxdKhbhKokZkcct5 3B9w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw1wH0evDehjVDZ7ejAYK6U9titcl62spHrMd79c4DJN+YsYEyS K23jimydMfie8+f9iH5QsVIT/A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHuGEhSG7RX01nyZgjR+Fwghr8A5GRx5aCCPzuWu+WYeglnM7ScveR7rX1YKlXS5AugK/i5Bw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:1e27:b0:407:4126:f71c with SMTP id ay39-20020a05600c1e2700b004074126f71cmr4387697wmb.6.1700035545893; Wed, 15 Nov 2023 00:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([105.28.119.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m15-20020a05600c4f4f00b004083bc9ac90sm14045270wmq.24.2023.11.15.00.05.43 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 15 Nov 2023 00:05:44 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Forster Message-Id: <5250C178-F909-4A4C-9724-5862B67D6CE1@connectivitycap.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9E87F3B5-F034-4DD1-9B5D-07A9715F2A5F" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.200.91.1.1\)) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 10:05:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: Cc: Inemesit Affia , Starlink To: J Pan References: <34D160E7-6C8F-4882-B1C3-570DF3D3854F@connectivitycap.com> <061BCB88-D7AB-4707-AC29-66968AD13480@connectivitycap.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.200.91.1.1) Subject: Re: [Starlink] Question on Startlink density X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 08:05:47 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_9E87F3B5-F034-4DD1-9B5D-07A9715F2A5F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks, that=E2=80=99s helpful. Would is also be the case that =E2=80=9C100 dishes in 3km^2=E2=80=9D is = ok? That=E2=80=99s 100x the power density=E2=80=A6 =E2=80=94 Jim > On Nov 15, 2023, at 9:07=E2=80=AFAM, J Pan wrote: >=20 > an old starlink capacity rule of thumb is "100 dishes in a 300 km^2 > cell". not sure about the latest as there are more satellites now, and > starlink can shuffle beam among nearby cells too --Apple-Mail=_9E87F3B5-F034-4DD1-9B5D-07A9715F2A5F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Thanks, = that=E2=80=99s helpful.

Would is also be the case = that =E2=80=9C100 dishes in 3km^2=E2=80=9D is ok?  That=E2=80=99s = 100x the power density=E2=80=A6

  =E2=80=94 = Jim

On Nov 15, 2023, at 9:07=E2=80=AFAM, J Pan = <Pan@uvic.ca> wrote:

an old = starlink capacity rule of thumb is "100 dishes in a 300 km^2
cell". not sure about the latest as there = are more satellites now, and
starlink can shuffle beam among nearby cells too

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