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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Starlink] Weird Starlink pricing in NZ (and what this tells us) X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2023 12:05:49 -0000 Kia ora all Starlink-curious, So I had a drive-by past starlink.com here tonight and noticed something=20 weird: Starlink has changed its pricing in NZ in a way that may be of=20 interest. If you buy a Starlink hardware kit off their website and you order it=20 for an urban address (that appears to be anything in our cities that are=20 bigger than about Hamilton and their immediate lifestyle block belts),=20 it's $729 for the hardware (Dishy kit). If you order it for a rural=20 address (anywhere else), it's $199 only. Yes, that's $199 vs. $729! In=20 NZ dollars. Previous pricing was a flat $520 and $1040 was the nominal=20 price: https://www.starlink.com/ I'm not sure that is even legal in NZ to discriminate by price based on=20 where your product will be used, but I'm no expert on this. Now the interesting bit is that you can also get the kit from local=20 retail chain Noel Leeming, where it is $199 no matter your address, but=20 you need to activate the Starlink kit when you get home and set it up: https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/p/starlink-standard-kit/N216204.html That begs the question as to whether Starlink will charge consumers in=20 urban areas an extra $530 upon activation and, if so, whether that is=20 clear to the customers when they buy the unit at Noel Leeming. It=20 mentions nothing to that effect on their website. The most likely explanation for the differential is that there are now=20 more urbanites per area with Starlink, but not as many genuinely rural=20 users as they'd like. (Thinking of tech-aficionados wanting to give it a=20 spin and probably a significant number of gullibles thinking it was=20 going to do better than their fibre connection after they got the=20 infamous leaflet drops here). So it looks as if Starlink are trying to=20 rebalance this - a nice way of validating the observation that user=20 density on the ground matters. Also more reports coming through of people using Starlink in roaming=20 mode in truly remote locations - had a report from Tarawa in Kiribati=20 tonight, and another last week of users in NZ's Chatham Islands. My PhD=20 student, who hails from Tarawa, was sent a direct marketing e-mail=20 offering him roaming service there. So clearly at least some of the=20 lasers are now working, but pricing and service description warning of=20 frequent outages are clearly aimed at keeping customer numbers in check=20 for now. My reading into this is that they have the lasers operating=20 that communicate within the orbital plane, but are yet to commission the=20 cross-plane ones. Planning a trip with my student to a (Starlink-)remote location south of=20 here in a fortnight to see how being away from a gateway location=20 impacts on performance. Ulrich --=20 **************************************************************** Dr. Ulrich Speidel School of Computer Science Room 303S.594 (City Campus) The University of Auckland u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~ulrich/ ****************************************************************