From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (bobcat.rjmcmahon.com [45.33.58.123]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A4D13CB37; Wed, 13 Dec 2023 21:46:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.76] (c-69-181-111-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [69.181.111.171]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 046D91B25E; Wed, 13 Dec 2023 18:46:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 bobcat.rjmcmahon.com 046D91B25E DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rjmcmahon.com; s=bobcat; t=1702522008; bh=/wOKbNGUyUQSQuLKpmtKHp6A8sg25qg6T41lRQZsQ3c=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Date:To:CC:From; b=d7SuKELeMN5Ur5OkfukszGbLkuuj5Ua5PIvbNruCiocnQkqW8U/MixAMfsPVyzlI+ LJw0xHN3w0JzJ7aTMYtv/n4F1UNdlinOuoz9XcV9GtDe6PxcyymovoNBGSCzN/104Y hKPvlqeBLBfR6z28deiP79I2K7Gb9X78tYzWb+As= In-Reply-To: References: X-Referenced-Uid: 00011d67567702d5 Thread-Topic: Re: [NNagain] [Starlink] FCC Upholds Denial of Starlink's RDOF Application User-Agent: Android X-Is-Generated-Message-Id: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----1ZFA1F72FQIRJQ1IXLN94YEADNHYP7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Robert McMahon Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2023 18:46:47 -0800 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=B4s_make_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?the_technical_a_spects_heard_this_time!?= CC: Dave Taht via Starlink , dickroy@alum.mit.edu, Frantisek Borsik Message-ID: <55037f9a-bc2c-4bbb-a4bb-47ad30f16190@rjmcmahon.com> Subject: Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] FCC Upholds Denial of Starlink's RDOF Application X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2023 02:46:49 -0000 ------1ZFA1F72FQIRJQ1IXLN94YEADNHYP7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I think this common in that appointment of commissioners go through a polit= ical process=2E The FCC has a technology group, too=2E When I worked with t= hem about 8 years ago, they had skilled researchers on staff and a highly s= killed director=2E They asked good questions about engineering decisions, l= ike what is limiting the number of mimo streams on devices=2E Their physic= al facility is a bit dated, and they don't get stock grants=2E I respect th= e engineers I worked with for what they did=2E =E2=81=A3Bob On Dec 13, 2= 023, 2:38 PM, at 2:38 PM, Frantisek Borsik via Nnagain wrote: >I would love for Nathan to be here with us, and com= ment on that :-) so >I >will add NN list as well=2E > > >All the best, > >F= rank >Frantisek (Frank) Borsik > >https://www=2Elinkedin=2Ecom/in/frantisek= borsik >Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 >iMessage, mobile: +42077= 5230885 >Skype: casioa5302ca >frantisek=2Eborsik@gmail=2Ecom > > >On Wed, 1= 3 Dec 2023 at 11:21 PM, Richard Roy >wrote: > >= > >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Starlink [mailto:st= arlink-bounces@lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet] *On >> Behalf Of *Frantisek Borsi= k via Starlink >> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 13, 2023 1:26 PM >> *To:* Dav= e Taht via Starlink >> *Subject:* [Starlink] FCC Upholds Denial of Starlink= =E2=80=99s RDOF >Application >> >> >> >> =E2=80=9C*Elon Musk*=E2=80=99s Sta= rlink was not the only major company to inflate its >> capabilities >> > >in >> RDOF = bids=2E Nearly 100 bidders have defaulted since the auction, >leaving in >>= limbo an estimated $2=2E8 billion >> > >of >> t= he $9=2E2 billion originally awarded=2E >> >> >> >> The FCC upheld another = denial >> > >> on Monday in the case of LTD Broadband, = which appealed the >commission=E2=80=99s >> finding that it could not reaso= nably serve the more than 500,000 >locations >> to which it had committed= =2E The commission also hit LTD with a $21=2E7 >million >> fine for its def= ault=2E >> >> The commission=E2=80=99s two Republicans dissented to Starlin= k=E2=80=99s denial, >claiming >> they saw a path for the company to improve= its speeds before the >first >> deployment deadline in 2025=2E=E2=80=9D >>= >> *[RR] The reason two lawyers =E2=80=9Csaw a path=E2=80=9D is because th= ey were >> bribed/conned into to see it=2E In my nearly 50years of experien= ce >dealing >> with the FCC, extremely rarely are the people at the top in = the >commission >> tech savvy=2E In general, they have NO CLUE when it com= es to >technology =E2=80=A6 >> period! **JJ* >> >> >> >> >> >https://broadb= andbreakfast=2Ecom/2023/12/fcc-upholds-denial-of-starlinks-rdof-application= / >> >> >> >> >> All the best, >> >> Frank >> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik >> >= > https://www=2Elinkedin=2Ecom/in/frantisekborsik >> Signal, Telegram, What= sApp: +421919416714 >> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 >> Skype: casioa5302= ca >> frantisek=2Eborsik@gmail=2Ecom >> > > >------------------------------= ------------------------------------------ > >_____________________________= __________________ >Nnagain mailing list >Nnagain@lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet= >https://lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet/listinfo/nnagain ------1ZFA1F72FQIRJQ1IXLN94YEADNHYP7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think this= common in that appointment of commissioners go through a political process= =2E The FCC has a technology group, too=2E When I worked with them about 8 = years ago, they had skilled researchers on staff and a highly skilled direc= tor=2E They asked good questions about engineering decisions, like what is = limiting the number of mimo streams on devices=2E

Their physical facility is a bit dated, and they don't get stock gra= nts=2E I respect the engineers I worked with for what they did=2E

Bob
On Dec 13, 2023, at 2:38 PM, Frantisek Borsi= k via Nnagain <nnagain@lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet> wrote:
I would l= ove for Nathan to be here with us, and comment on that :-) so I will add NN= list as well=2E


All the best,

Frank
Frantisek (Frank) Borsi= k

https:= //www=2Elinkedin=2Ecom/in/frantisekborsik
Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp= : +421919416714 
iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
Skype= : casioa5302ca
frantis= ek=2Eborsik@gmail=2Ecom


On Wed, 13 D= ec 2023 at 11:21 PM, Richard Roy <dickroy3777@comcast=2Enet> wrote:

 

 

From:= Starlink [mailto= :starlink-bounces@lists=2Ebufferbloat=2En= et] On Behalf Of Frantisek Borsik via Starlink
= Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 1:26 PM
To: Dave Taht via Starlink
= Subject: [St= arlink] FCC Upholds Denial of Starlink=E2=80=99s RDOF Application

 

=

=E2=80=9CElon Musk=E2=80=99s Starlink was not the only major company t= o  in RDOF bids=2E Nearly 100 bidders have d= efaulted since the auction, leaving in limbo an estimated $2=2E8 billion of the $9=2E2 billion originally= awarded=2E 

 

The FCC&= nbsp;upheld another denial on Monday in the case of LTD Broadband, w= hich appealed the commission=E2=80=99s finding that it could not reasonably= serve the more than 500,000 locations to which it had committed=2E The com= mission also hit LTD with a $21=2E7 million fine for its default=2E<= u style=3D"font-family:Arial">

The commission=E2=80=99s two Republicans dissented to Starlink= =E2=80=99s denial, claiming they saw a path for the company to improve its = speeds before the first deployment deadline in 2025=2E=E2=80=9D

[RR] The reason two lawyers =E2=80=9Csaw a path=E2=80= =9D is because they were bribed/conned into to see it=2E In my nearly 50yea= rs of experience dealing with the FCC, extremely rarely are the people at t= he top in the commission tech savvy=2E  In general, they have NO CLUE = when it comes to technology =E2=80=A6 period! <= font size=3D"2" face=3D"Wingdings" style=3D"font-family:Wingdings;color:rgb= (0,0,128)">JJ

 

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All the best,

Frank
Frantis= ek (Frank) Borsik

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Signal, Telegr= am, WhatsApp: +421919416714 
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frantisek=2Eborsik@gmail=2Ecom<= /span>


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