From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=sandelman.ca; dkim=pass header.d=sandelman.ca; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=none Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98E45727E39 for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2025 23:08:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D546C18011; Wed, 1 Oct 2025 17:08:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavis, port 10024) with LMTP id L6960nf3M-kX; Wed, 1 Oct 2025 17:08:53 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sandelman.ca; s=mail; t=1759352933; bh=c912SR0osw0OaMNp4WBVwH6gdOaTg16xaqsK8r3Wsgo=; h=From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=o5viHnO0dLTIh/e74CeKH17xXSvq0HF6Pi1DqdOCGzta380mmT5+Ssb6ghFlgQwOR lWLsEpVLviz7NWsZ0FsO/FhM5udQw62TkAq9SXMDNnDsg3AZUYWMqL3KBvzqASun1j a1xfB8hIozdNBTejPcC436dnTOYwdKfW5c1QRfQ6XNSg3+R8NNfBaioxV0kG1E3QCI WxU+zw9dM44vWdKX2mGz33qACTCpbg4Xr0xtW4kkgTYwaTqT3C9A6FU3qb8gkisso0 v73wo3O/pTmQfTvYLuJelw+QAPeSr0N8KoWHk4OEOIOSLZt8h+gV56krBIu+tW1X1y hCJIucGvBVwtQ== Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894ED1800F; Wed, 1 Oct 2025 17:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from obiwan.sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855551B8; Wed, 1 Oct 2025 17:08:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: J Pan cc: Frantisek Borsik , Dave Taht via Starlink In-Reply-To: References: <23116.1759337190@obiwan.sandelman.ca> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.8+dev; GNU Emacs 28.2 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0;<'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2025 17:08:53 -0400 Message-ID: <5880.1759352933@obiwan.sandelman.ca> Message-ID-Hash: A7MBA6QFWEE52EQBBETEHAL5IPU4QPTU X-Message-ID-Hash: A7MBA6QFWEE52EQBBETEHAL5IPU4QPTU X-MailFrom: mcr@sandelman.ca X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: Lost in Space: The Limits of Geolocation in a Satellite-Connected World (new article from Geoff Huston) List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: J Pan wrote: > 100.64/10 is starlink's ipv4 access network. from the user side, user > router will get a unique 100.64/10 address on its wan side, and its > cgnat gateway is always fixed at 100.64.0.1. from the user 100.64/10 > (100.76.147.112 in my victoria dish example) to 100.64.0.1, it's a I thought I understood that 100.64.0.1 did not show up in your traceroute though?