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From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: "David Fernández" <davidfdzp@gmail.com>,
	"David Fernández via Starlink" <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] [Rpm] Fwd: [Make-wifi-fast] make-wifi-fast
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:54:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5F7B7DE2-D356-4183-9DC9-EF80BF83E660@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC=tZ0pKLeM=7xsK_d6aL6R467zFiRFf18_hXLLzvP4PCdoqpQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

See [SM] below.

On 21 December 2022 08:37:27 CET, "David Fernández via Starlink" <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>What about this?
>https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/wi-fi-certified-wmm-programs
>
>Isn't this Wi-Fi MM (Multimedia) supposed to solve Wi-Fi QoS issues?

        [SM] In home network reality it failed to do so. I would guess partly because the admission control component is optional and as far as I can tell not available in the usual WiFi routers and APs. A free for all priority system that in addition diminishes the total achievable throughput when the higher priority tiers are used introduces at least as much QoS issues a it solves IMHO. This might be different for 'enterprise WiFi gear' but I have no experience with that...

Regard
      Sebastian

P.S.: This feels like you might responded to a different thread then the iperf2 one we are in right now?



>
>> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2022 11:04:13 -0800
>> From: rjmcmahon <rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com>
>> To: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
>> Cc: rjmcmahon via Make-wifi-fast
>> 	<make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>, Dave Täht
>> 	<dave.taht@gmail.com>, Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>, libreqos
>> 	<libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net>, Dave Taht via Starlink
>> 	<starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Starlink] [Rpm] Fwd: [Make-wifi-fast] make-wifi-fast
>> 	2016 &	crusader
>> Message-ID: <4e8ee21b1a69fba9c61366f6055fbc13@rjmcmahon.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>> Thanks for the well-written response Sebastian. I need to think more
>> about the load vs no load OWD differentials and maybe offer that as an
>> integrated test. Thanks for bringing it up (again.) I do think a
>> low-duty cycle bounceback test to the AP could be interesting too.
>>
>> I don't know of any projects working on iperf 2 & containers but it has
>> been suggested as useful.
>>
>> Bob
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-21  7:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-21  7:37 David Fernández
2022-12-21  7:54 ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2022-12-23 15:02   ` David Fernández
2022-12-24  0:00 David P. Reed
2023-01-02 17:35 David Fernández
2023-01-02 18:44 ` Ben Greear
2023-01-02 18:57   ` Dave Collier-Brown
2023-01-02 19:00   ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-01-03  7:44     ` David Fernández
2023-01-03  8:18       ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-01-02 19:14   ` Dave Taht
2023-01-03  9:00     ` David Fernández

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