From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AB903B29D for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 02:54:26 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1671609264; bh=BuNvOIq/b4W5U07Qz+y18jic/Np8jAbLenHpITkep0s=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=hEkm7Oo9F3WL+FAehd8ryDIptLLsF4JoduP/Q1oXmg4L2JSLxBgWVtNktMbsnmrLk HzQDoI+LntHqXx+fPVR3OJsyXPt7r8U3yCmjRFW2jYKHVGKd3eP8tf2aY5dLs2DP17 jtGx+VRPJekXP+RDip4OlSN5b0ZEtu0m4qMkQf/fsUlFmQOxhmJEKo1I3ZsDhRlBiV aXLRJrCZA+McNHCl07OOs2QgP2GX1dgMrucXDD33/YwRaU0GMb03zD5aR0+auz6uYR paHov5Mwyy9ztpHPkfOXh54xfDyD3Q6obmLMiJN0yNVBpM4fR0MLwlYpvN0QQKySc9 9VB9G48vNkFzA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([80.187.85.204]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MPGVx-1pXWMH2rRF-00Pdne; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:54:24 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:54:22 +0100 From: Sebastian Moeller To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?David_Fern=E1ndez?= , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?David_Fern=E1ndez_via_Starlink?= , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F7B7DE2-D356-4183-9DC9-EF80BF83E660@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:wzqzPIAD/ZbHkkPBXPIGn0Acg2pRUoS9jgigJ5trqrIX/h39Jbi fyHtIgDelXxM7OECWhF82+o7f9elaabAgl0YG08VqUxRu/cT4E9kSW6h1aWz4NKrgboN3F4 XtaGOPkgQkXMYiEKfPRrrlPMC0VCxWBN0aBWpt2zXuqt96C16xfo4ZU/ST6ObOQQybmYhvz laeWUWjKYEGdkkkzK+vOQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:Q6FHoWHG0DQ=;9NfM7L7y1vcmKFC60E9q3BYDmf7 tGc3JW6n8SXPAdwro+TtAnObpm7ZvoJht6jtUaiYS+m99u7Yz+lxdl6NH12FnEd9NzLx1CDmy rv6F0TvLwWrVFTEZVfkWj13cDPLJapyk6kF7shRdd3+cxgjjk2tCohN3mB6iEd6XJPLW9g6vu 49UBwAc30YfuK1C65kYN0Ao/ElxzVqeoSyLf9tA7rjLBihofAPyzawX8vXRqFOl8GdhGS2xET fE59TfNt/5HJ4y7S8IvqWt7GKX+MR5J8QDRkdxTNjfKAg8kJ+tvFju4vKTuU01Xd8Dd39jfXJ lY8+Wt9dKI2Wg167c5oRKufS7YY+3FdFijfcBQxe4PGq0Ew6p3x1SVZzKdMEKsgkl5b1+qoFp VfQAV2ujFsYmtyEnO0mutBBRQpvncsLbejGBBWi8129E+HxbDQkzKU1cZF7ZXBuGQrDcRYB5p hYoUh7R0U+MCX6GyPgSOcsvAgXQ+hgxzYbvqqk7MXDMeN3uUJ8ZrnJFxopX9A6q95dXUO1u2o hBW0SG+opeQ0bY1ZQeSZIH55ZXSmA8L2cMIZRwP/95R2rmvofkgMDmZQKCXals4vrC9bcbYvo KYwL4AK2Its+pYFahXnXuIMu8pSNMLpeJogn+/MV9qIlyLwnmMU9IMdyLDQrNE87YET/T0o/O I1ESIrNFLG7j5Nf3CjVydLo7twipfYbdnre36feg2coG8E/50lInhwI91j2aNAnk9stBGFG8x lP+2Fj0w6W/q4ywHo8os1cfRKNgeGWEg/tfoLM5CUfOurWJxK0LMhdOpa77LG0P2gD5ArTYdE DRCYZ5S+7A04ttbbjQikuNRs/5x8W6IZAVHSZdTvJNzZTIq1hqn50mT0Y6LFVW8MKvnEUkUG1 foxh1JXt2bN8UuehgwPOYjPxLbqyAR/B47NeJsMeMgX1W8sAivFeGQ34yS/WM16XhxU8eQBFE nL3NLHtMt94N9S6FH/xVGOl6sBo= Subject: Re: [Starlink] [Rpm] Fwd: [Make-wifi-fast] make-wifi-fast X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:54:26 -0000 Hi, See [SM] below=2E On 21 December 2022 08:37:27 CET, "David Fern=C3=A1ndez via Starlink" wrote: >What about this? >https://www=2Ewi-fi=2Eorg/discover-wi-fi/wi-fi-certified-wmm-programs > >Isn't this Wi-Fi MM (Multimedia) supposed to solve Wi-Fi QoS issues? [SM] In home network reality it failed to do so=2E I would guess p= artly because the admission control component is optional and as far as I c= an tell not available in the usual WiFi routers and APs=2E A free for all p= riority system that in addition diminishes the total achievable throughput = when the higher priority tiers are used introduces at least as much QoS iss= ues a it solves IMHO=2E This might be different for 'enterprise WiFi gear' = but I have no experience with that=2E=2E=2E Regard Sebastian P=2ES=2E: This feels like you might responded to a different thread then t= he iperf2 one we are in right now? > >> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2022 11:04:13 -0800 >> From: rjmcmahon >> To: Sebastian Moeller >> Cc: rjmcmahon via Make-wifi-fast >> , Dave T=C3=A4ht >> , Rpm , libreq= os >> , Dave Taht via Starlink >> , bloat >> Subject: Re: [Starlink] [Rpm] Fwd: [Make-wifi-fast] make-wifi-fast >> 2016 & crusader >> Message-ID: <4e8ee21b1a69fba9c61366f6055fbc13@rjmcmahon=2Ecom> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8; format=3Dflowed >> >> Thanks for the well-written response Sebastian=2E I need to think more >> about the load vs no load OWD differentials and maybe offer that as an >> integrated test=2E Thanks for bringing it up (again=2E) I do think a >> low-duty cycle bounceback test to the AP could be interesting too=2E >> >> I don't know of any projects working on iperf 2 & containers but it has >> been suggested as useful=2E >> >> Bob >> >_______________________________________________ >Starlink mailing list >Starlink@lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet >https://lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet/listinfo/starlink --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E