From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from dispatch1-us1.ppe-hosted.com (dispatch1-us1.ppe-hosted.com [67.231.154.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F7CC3B29E for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:25:09 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Proofpoint Essentials engine Received: from mail3.candelatech.com (mail2.candelatech.com [208.74.158.173]) by mx1-us1.ppe-hosted.com (PPE Hosted ESMTP Server) with ESMTP id DAB86240075 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 18:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.100.159] (50-251-239-81-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.251.239.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail3.candelatech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6B37C13C2B0 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 10:25:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mail3.candelatech.com 6B37C13C2B0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=candelatech.com; s=default; t=1673979907; bh=RCfK4cdJuUNfmtYSLO1YurabwYLDAqxfchsouXuxYlo=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=a4i9juHvKQGgVYXkD6fGvXbBU6X5AS+uqJJXZoQ64f/oBFuogLroK55hB1vp83Bb7 cONPxCogZ0ihcJ+t7Mg6CyxyRGy7mSqjPtR97E4vrHVeKuHHybT6iSceLp3KtKaUE0 xmHPA4uYS2lC6idOTUMr6NPaB3Kb17aLWBSY1+n8= Message-ID: <5bcad96b-1cea-df69-2806-39a858d19cd2@candelatech.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 10:25:07 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.6.0 Content-Language: en-US To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <35DD8C11-8E9B-4E5B-B6F8-F3496511EBCC@searls.com> From: Ben Greear Organization: Candela Technologies In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDID: 1673979908-0osQXpTqxKDW X-MDID-O: us5-at1-1673979908-0osQXpTqxKDW Subject: Re: [Starlink] Widely different bufferbloat on two machines connected to one access point X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 18:25:09 -0000 On 1/17/23 08:48, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: > This is kind of OT for here, but I'll bite: > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 8:27 AM Doc Searls via Starlink > wrote: >> >> A question for the true geniuses here, before I call an Apple one who isn't... >> >> We have two laptops here, both feet away from the nearest Eero hot spot in a household network fed by a cable modem, an Aris DOCSIS 3.1 router and a 24-port Netgear switch. > > Eero 5? or 6? Might be worth sniffing traffic and see if the problem laptop is behaving as far as power-save is concerned. It should not be going to sleep often if you are doing a steady download, for instance. Thanks, Ben -- Ben Greear Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com