From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp99.iad3b.emailsrvr.com (smtp99.iad3b.emailsrvr.com [146.20.161.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A835B3B29E for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2023 08:51:11 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=evslin.com; s=20220608-p431o605; t=1688734271; bh=8LMSnMP1yY0KafkGxdcVN8cmF/WRgVA12VpPuQU/wKM=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=PRaEe+EN5nlsO3Dg/GLrRN0eBYBjBSlZ1tMhirOPKADRb09IEenqysek6R+20U++r m0f1cz9UwvWl7vmuYNceeNpn80LSSKqTrWs1+rPOt3dg12C7vVnQVoLzTw8/ghVzXA fB/2/nsF8teOsoeyhupoH5k+qWyzvkivH/X5CSbQ= X-Auth-ID: tom@evslin.com Received: by smtp13.relay.iad3b.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: tom-AT-evslin.com) with ESMTPSA id DC4E4600ED; Fri, 7 Jul 2023 08:51:10 -0400 (EDT) From: To: "'Mike Puchol'" , References: <114eabbd-cf5b-1c08-8226-fbf53455d9ea@falco.ca> <6p3296pr-96n3-8p77-ps68-25155r16o365@ynat.uz> <32d09d76-7aa6-a469-9539-d02a9fa9c7f3@gmail.com> <06c7e204-5eba-4766-3b39-dfaa33f41f69@falco.ca> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2023 08:51:10 -0400 Message-ID: <5c1e901d9b0d1$b49d6e50$1dd84af0$@evslin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_5C1EA_01D9B0B0.2D8D06D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQGwt2ac7hLC5HeMacRaoego0or3LwHDLyItAlNzUGYC5vPIEwHWCQhxAmhilbevplPusA== Content-Language: en-us X-Classification-ID: ae8433e4-b508-4e32-80c0-1029624545ba-1-1 Subject: Re: [Starlink] orbital maneuvers 12 per sat in the last 6 months X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 12:51:11 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_5C1EA_01D9B0B0.2D8D06D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great visualization. Dumb question but I can=E2=80=99t figure it out. = What are the orange planes labeled =E2=80=9Cinstruments=E2=80=9D? They = are obviously related o the beams below them but I=E2=80=99m not sure = what they are either. =20 Thank you =20 From: Starlink On Behalf Of = Mike Puchol via Starlink Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 2:35 AM To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Starlink] orbital maneuvers 12 per sat in the last 6 = months =20 Profession Hugh Lewis follows Starlink=E2=80=99s conjuction reports = closely, and writes very detailed threads whenever a report comes up: https://twitter.com/ProfHughLewis Latest thread: https://twitter.com/ProfHughLewis/status/1658173801924812803 If you want an idea of -what- they are avoiding, LeoLabs operates a set = of radars which track anything larger than 10cm in cross-section, and = provides an awesome visualization here: https://platform.leolabs.space/visualization (make sure to enable the =E2=80=9Cdebris=E2=80=9D checkbox too) =20 Best, Mike On Jul 7, 2023 at 08:23 +0200, Daniel AJ Sokolov via Starlink = , wrote: On 7/6/23 22:28, blakangel@gmail.com = wrote: I think the main point of the article is that the amount of maneuvers needed is currently increasing exponentially: Indeed, I read that. But the article does not explain why they think this trend will continue exponentially. Obviously it can't continue exponentially forever, because eventually all satellites are on the move evading one another 100% of the time. :-) Cheers Daniel _______________________________________________ Starlink mailing list Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net =20 https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink ------=_NextPart_000_5C1EA_01D9B0B0.2D8D06D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Great visualization. Dumb question but I can=E2=80=99t = figure it out. What are the orange planes labeled = =E2=80=9Cinstruments=E2=80=9D? They are obviously related o the beams = below them but I=E2=80=99m not sure what they are = either.

 

Thank you

 

From: Starlink = <starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> On Behalf Of Mike = Puchol via Starlink
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 2:35 = AM
To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: = [Starlink] orbital maneuvers 12 per sat in the last 6 = months

 

Profession Hugh = Lewis follows Starlink=E2=80=99s conjuction reports closely, and writes = very detailed threads whenever a report comes up:

https://twitter.com/ProfHughLewis

Latest = thread:

https://twitter.com/ProfHughLewis/status/16581738019248= 12803

If you want an idea of -what- they are avoiding, = LeoLabs operates a set of radars which track anything larger than 10cm = in cross-section, and provides an awesome visualization here:

https://platform.leolabs.space/visualization
(make sure to enable the =E2=80=9Cdebris=E2=80=9D checkbox = too)

 

Best,

Mike

On Jul 7, 2023 at 08:23 = +0200, Daniel AJ Sokolov via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat= .net>, wrote:


On 7/6/23 22:28, blakangel@gmail.com = wrote:

I = think the main point of the article is that the amount of = maneuvers
needed is currently increasing = exponentially:


Indeed, I read that. But the article does not = explain why they think
this trend will continue = exponentially.

Obviously it can't continue exponentially forever, = because eventually
all satellites are on the move evading one another = 100% of the time. = :-)

Cheers
Daniel
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