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From: Keith Simonsen <blakangel@gmail.com>
To: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink and VPN
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 08:14:07 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ce2978f-1b14-44af-8b89-69a17725c5c4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <36r7n950-4qs8-1p06-3595-95or55n5p181@ynat.uz>




On 1/21/2025 7:22 AM, David Lang wrote:
> b. angel wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> I gave up on open VPN and starlink a while ago. I've implemented 
>> wireguard
>> tunnels with success and reliability.
>
> did you end up having to do anything with MTU? Did you use TCP or UDP 
> for your transport?
It's UDP only. Standard wireguard config. I have links using PFSense to 
PFSense, Mikrotik to PFSense and Mikrotik Mikrotik all with good 
performance and months long reliability. Both permanent site-site 
circuits and "road warrior" style.

In PFSense when you set up a wireguard interface it sets the MTU to 1420 
and MSS to 1380. This depends on your WAN link of course.

If your clients are needing OpenVPN you can make a "jumpbox" to 
terminate the Starlink wireguard circuits and set up an OpenVPN server 
routing to them. I've implemented this setup for one location.

>
> David Lang
Keith
>
>> Keith
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 23:25 David Lang via Starlink <
>> starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>>> has anyone done any work with openvpn over starlink (especially if they
>>> got the
>>> connectors to completely bypass the router)?
>>>
>>> I've got the basic connectivity working, but am having problems 
>>> trying to
>>> get
>>> openvpn to work (especially for traffic back through the cgnat to the
>>> router on
>>> the starlink side)
>>>
>>> the logs on the client are reporting link local: (not bound) when 
>>> trying
>>> UDP,
>>> when I try TCP (and clamp the mtu low) I can connect from the starlink
>>> side (st
>>> least sometimes) but cannot get the routing the other way to work
>>>
>>> David Lang
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>>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-21 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-21  7:25 David Lang
2025-01-21 11:43 ` David Collier-Brown
2025-01-21 15:12 ` b. angel
2025-01-21 15:22   ` David Lang
2025-01-21 15:27     ` Sebastian Moeller
2025-01-21 15:36       ` Nils Andreas Svee
2025-01-21 15:45       ` David Lang
2025-01-21 16:14     ` Keith Simonsen [this message]
2025-01-21 16:45       ` David Lang
2025-01-21 15:36 ` Gert Doering
2025-01-21 15:52   ` David Lang
2025-01-21 23:02 ` Dino Farinacci
2025-01-22 22:53   ` Dave Taht
2025-01-22 23:25     ` Dino Farinacci
2025-01-22 23:29       ` Darrell Budic
2025-01-22 23:42         ` Dino Farinacci
2025-01-23  3:10     ` David Lang
2025-01-23 17:31       ` J Pan

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