From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from au-smtp-delivery-117.mimecast.com (au-smtp-delivery-117.mimecast.com [103.96.21.117]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFDBE3CB37 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2023 06:39:34 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=auckland.ac.nz; s=mimecast20200506; t=1696243172; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Dm/42wFotK83/nzIIJBfEYUTNNjZhx7JWPSSFu9AYDw=; b=GxTw49K1EOsFNum5JyZirWshpgiFnA1sQRJmKjMMJO5mT0BOKBpK2E9B7ce/G5Pl5jc0ox mVL43HRJC29kMCrwgtzgTILjbHCoXnPKKLatEeHGON5ZouB8qWAdcSD7kZK34DaDGaHA5m H2NAyOMqVcksxoTdoMZXMXd1TlX2hvA= Received: from AUS01-ME3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-me3aus01lp2232.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.71.232]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id au-mta-39-_E3isGRRMsynCd_zXqdGyw-1; Mon, 02 Oct 2023 21:39:29 +1100 X-MC-Unique: _E3isGRRMsynCd_zXqdGyw-1 Received: from SY4PR01MB6979.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com (2603:10c6:10:142::13) by MEYPR01MB6342.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com (2603:10c6:220:fb::8) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.6813.28; Mon, 2 Oct 2023 10:39:27 +0000 Received: from SY4PR01MB6979.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::90fc:9c3f:b646:86ae]) by SY4PR01MB6979.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::90fc:9c3f:b646:86ae%4]) with mapi id 15.20.6838.028; Mon, 2 Oct 2023 10:39:27 +0000 Message-ID: <618b4118-cb0a-4780-a868-f390e2679d90@auckland.ac.nz> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 23:39:24 +1300 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <94994411-fb55-402c-9606-d2d6c4b3e6d4@gmail.com> From: Ulrich Speidel In-Reply-To: <94994411-fb55-402c-9606-d2d6c4b3e6d4@gmail.com> X-ClientProxiedBy: SY5P282CA0136.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10c6:10:205::7) To SY4PR01MB6979.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com (2603:10c6:10:142::13) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: SY4PR01MB6979:EE_|MEYPR01MB6342:EE_ X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: 677f185e-a762-40d5-b5e3-08dbc333d9f8 X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck: 1 X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-Relay: 0 X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0 X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: 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 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:SY4PR01MB6979.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFS:(13230031)(136003)(376002)(39860400002)(366004)(396003)(346002)(230922051799003)(186009)(1800799009)(64100799003)(451199024)(6666004)(478600001)(966005)(6486002)(86362001)(66574015)(36756003)(53546011)(166002)(83380400001)(31696002)(2616005)(38100700002)(6506007)(5660300002)(33964004)(6512007)(2906002)(66946007)(316002)(66476007)(6916009)(66556008)(786003)(31686004)(30864003)(41300700001)(8936002)(43740500002)(45980500001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101 X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount: 1 X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0: =?utf-8?B?aGgwK2tQc2NyZnhGOEdXcGFSUXY1ang2dWZzSzJEdnZKY3dQVzlMZmJLSU5F?= =?utf-8?B?L01FaWY5V1ZiQS9qNFVUUjVVZjR6Vk5tcEZ6NUpUdERSbkI4VmhkQnJ5bXJQ?= =?utf-8?B?dG9CcTNUd3dmcnR6dU1kTm03UUpqbSs5Uk82L3FBcWtlRkVSbFV3S0p6SUQy?= =?utf-8?B?RUg0ZUszalMxVk9ydThqZGFHV09LS0lZbk5XUmMrbFpCTTZva0M1ZFBQc2d4?= =?utf-8?B?T1N4RTFJZi9SU254dHJiVlhZTHl2NmpPZ3dNalNmU3RHVjZEenRicU94SW5a?= =?utf-8?B?YlZPdWd0Y3hhSWZDekJGUldWZ29NTW0xTmptYTdQUEhWRnpqTkNLVUJ3Zk9y?= =?utf-8?B?Zng3MWJrK1Z0azlXQ01tREdzSDhObDJTNENMU2l5VVF2clN0TzJYK1dySklu?= =?utf-8?B?MURuelpQRmNySVQxNWVlbzU4azJPbXBLUTl1M0I0MTYxSTViYU5oZFB6czZw?= =?utf-8?B?Z3B1ZjNucnNybERjM3lueEdoL01xUkhnMzNvUjJ4Z1dubGR3Yi9xVkQvKzlT?= =?utf-8?B?K0F5b2Qvd3ZjaXpyWUlwRis0RHRoR2RIeXdzWEpSQlBCM3ZXOFZ0WndGdWxr?= =?utf-8?B?djViRVdmd2pqQzVkY1BvUk5uQ3N0aHVBNC9kcVZ4dStuRTdHRjBpRkxrbnNm?= =?utf-8?B?bTJFdXltbzNoY0w0WnZTVXFOZ1BkQmQwbWlyY1ByaHZrU2dIanV4cUtKYzZT?= =?utf-8?B?Z1NFU2ZPbkVTZGQrcnZIN2pCSk1RVCs0S3ZVUnZHSlMvbCtLWVB0MVc3b1RB?= =?utf-8?B?OTdZWEZxcmx4Qnd4R2s0a05lb1dWOEFxdmMxa0FvTHNSTlJCUU15M2hETTB3?= =?utf-8?B?SmgyZm82cy9reExPVDcvbENGVDNFWUs2Mi9LRzNSNnF5Qm1FTGIrN0NKUDZN?= =?utf-8?B?TmlWM1NrM2lua09ZcW1TVkZySmFzbFpIb0JYN2g1azhELzZrSlU3S2RoN1hF?= =?utf-8?B?dXRUdUhkcmVOaG52cFZwaUNNL0h0eEVRR2w0SG9iWHRzcVRqNDJhdk5sQkZq?= =?utf-8?B?VnNVOElLL2k0M1NVZUZEcFcwWlhFMFN1dkZqYVhkSFIyUTBCdk5jdXpwRCtY?= =?utf-8?B?Uml0U1VWVE1KMlAxSHZlNzRISEZQQzJ3VXQ2clJOdENxc055MmZhanpNWHN0?= =?utf-8?B?K3BsbXRTbUsyS083dlg3WDBlMyt1K3NlK2YyNEhSandtUnR6NFdZdnQ3eVJr?= =?utf-8?B?Y0FWZW5MK01ua3VuSGVjSXkwZTk5UkhBSytra3I5aWtLL1hnVTY5dXV2TkNF?= =?utf-8?B?UW9BbW1ybjJaSzVkd213cFFnNUtzTFBad05PQzhLMm9XOEFhMmo2enBjYjhT?= =?utf-8?B?eVcrTWhyd3FtaVZlYm9NdC9HL2NDNldBL1FqbGxOR1J2SmdIWGhITFRDN3pi?= =?utf-8?B?S2pLcHFvSDd1NVZtUEVPaVpnVE9nUGZ3SmdidmdEZ0c1QVpOcFRnR29tU1c0?= =?utf-8?B?VTlvV2tuWmZLUzhqNmhmYlZwRmRDZHFJczBVOTBmdHBYK3doZ2ZzbDVTdlF2?= =?utf-8?B?SEd2TTkxM3VScDlrT1JYVEJkRjY5NEdrRUVqVFhGcEYrKy9ua2xiM3ZHUGd1?= =?utf-8?B?NlVPWDdqOVpzWldsYUQwK2NXT3R2WGVyYmQ2L3lyc3NuYWVtcUFEbGluMERx?= =?utf-8?B?bEk5S085WWRLRjk0ZnEwV21pT3M5dlNUYVBnQklaWEdyblVONGhqdCtHNGR0?= =?utf-8?B?NmZ0blF1cHRYa21sNEFYT2tMd3RPd1psSzF4ZGtidDd0UVhPTkF3cXF2cENB?= =?utf-8?B?RVRaSko5L0w1SHJPejBMVUpPUng3cWduY1hVcnk5NStoMGdzS21sRyt2d1ZR?= =?utf-8?B?WXVDNzJuT3dvSUxiM3VvaUlQdXMrZEpBKzFXRlU5YTlNWE1oaVV0azIrNVZn?= =?utf-8?B?WU5COC9INTZ2ZWtwdll6QlN4TE5uVzNvM2Y1RzFIb25OOEpJQjlQOE4vQTZt?= =?utf-8?B?YUVaQWNQVUxnQVUzenp3VnM4VmNuU3pxSGVSY2s5Zy9qUU9oV3Rtd2dlTElE?= =?utf-8?B?SklocTRadEgwZE52SVJNQnZlSkkxZ2lwY3QwK2lzUVBHRWM5UVViODJYLzdD?= =?utf-8?B?MXJ1Rk9waE1FbjAycVM5TGJwQmdQWDJhaU1qdklhTzIyTTQyaS96Y2h5cUhJ?= =?utf-8?B?MHVWRm1xaHpGSHZMbXJsZ0RUak1heUt2cCtwb3QvZ1p0aE42VjlpS2hlbFhK?= =?utf-8?B?M0xmbFRoUWcvcWY0cEtQTi9WbWNVSittajIzTWMyTzlrd0FsbHV3amRHNVpV?= =?utf-8?B?eFgrcHhicnZ0TXhTSG1jS1lyMzJnPT0=?= X-OriginatorOrg: auckland.ac.nz X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 677f185e-a762-40d5-b5e3-08dbc333d9f8 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SY4PR01MB6979.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2023 10:39:27.2496 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: d1b36e95-0d50-42e9-958f-b63fa906beaa X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-MailboxType: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-UserPrincipalName: Aha0OJ6AOMEvitvsGojZhNanAwSU+AhLhRsUvTW35hHqWAr0NMhic7ZgDr2J6TTDNOIRmtCQFJUdh2oKoql2tcEvEYev6rlG2F0jtOA0z/Q= X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: MEYPR01MB6342 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: auckland.ac.nz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------old5Dgmdx13jrkY0rZ0XwYpr" Content-Language: en-US Subject: Re: [Starlink] =?utf-8?q?Starlink_lost_over_200_satellites_in_two_mon?= =?utf-8?q?ths_=E2=80=93_tracker_data?= X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2023 10:39:35 -0000 --------------old5Dgmdx13jrkY0rZ0XwYpr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes. The atmosphere doesn't really "end" at a certain altitude, it just=20 gets thinner and thinner, which eventually means that the drag on=20 spacecraft caused by the remaining air particles up there gets so low=20 that the spacecraft can orbit for extended periods of time. But the drag=20 isn't zero, and Low Earth Orbit sateIlites such as the Starlink birds=20 suffer from some drag. The way to counteract that would normally be=20 re-acceleration via small booster engines, but for these to work in=20 space, you need fuel aboard the satellite, which will eventually run=20 out. As LEOs move faster in denser atmosphere than MEOs and GEOs, that=20 puts significant downward pressure on their lifetime (unless, like in=20 the case of the ISS, you can refuel). In the case of Starlink, there is also the minor issue that their=20 initial constellation that they started commercial ops with isn't=20 ISL-capable, so there may be an incentive here to retire some satellites=20 early, perhaps, and fill their orbital slots with more capable birds. The SpaceX folk on this list might wish to comment? On 2/10/2023 11:15 pm, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: > One can see the starlink 're-entries' on some re-entry public databases. > > On this one from aerospace.org, one can see starlink re-entries > yesterday, and also 29 sept., 27 sept., etc. > > https://aerospace.org/reentries/grid=20 > > > It seems to me - a non expert - that starlink regularly re-enters its > sats and puts new ones in orbit.=C2=A0 Maybe a starlink sat has a lifetim= e of > 2-3 years. > > > Object > >=20 > >=20 > > > Mission > >=20 > >=20 > > > Reentry Type > >=20 > >=20 > > > Launched > >=20 > >=20 > > > Predicted Reentry Time > >=20 > >=20 > > > > > STARLINK-1868 (ID 47154) >=20 > > > Launch L15 Payload Nov 25, 2020 Oct 01, 2023 15:39:12 =C2=B1 16 hours > > IUS R/B(1) (ID 19884) >=20 > STS > > 29/TDRS 4 Rocket Body Mar 13, 1989 Sep 30, 2023 12:32:28 =C2=B1 7 hours > > STARLINK-1074 (ID 44957) >=20 > > > Launch L2 Payload Jan 07, 2020 Sep 29, 2023 20:53:28 =C2=B1 3 hours > > STARLINK-5596 (ID 55476) >=20 > > > Launch Group 5-3 Payload Feb 02, 2023 Sep 27, 2023 17:41:11 =C2=B1 6 ho= urs > > STARLINK-2345 (ID 47886) >=20 > > > Launch L21 Payload Mar 14, 2021 Sep 27, 2023 15:58:50 =C2=B1 1 hour > > COSMOS 1124 (ID 11509) >=20 > COSMOS > > 1124 Payload Aug 28, 1979 Sep 27, 2023 00:23:01 =C2=B1 1 hour > > CERES-1 R/B (ID 57796) >=20 > TIANQI > > 21-24 Rocket Body Sep 05, 2023 Sep 25, 2023 06:59:01 =C2=B1 1 hour > > STARLINK-2212 (ID 47779) >=20 > > > Launch L17 Payload Mar 04, 2021 Sep 25, 2023 03:11:43 =C2=B1 1 hour > > STARLINK-1419 (ID 45694) >=20 > > > Launch L7 Payload Jun 04, 2020 Sep 24, 2023 11:01:39 =C2=B1 10 hours > > STARLINK-1026 (ID 44731) >=20 > > > Launch L1 Payload Nov 11, 2019 Sep 22, 2023 22:21:15 =C2=B1 3 hours > > ELECTRON KICK STAGE R/B (ID 55328) > > >=20 > SPACEBEE Rocket Body Nov > > 20, 2020 Sep 21, 2023 12:57:34 =C2=B1 1 hour > > SL-4 R/B (ID 57863) >=20 > SOYUZ > > MS-24 Rocket Body Sep 15, 2023 Sep 18, 2023 04:58:16 =C2=B1 1 hour > > DELTA 2 R/B(2) (PAM-D) (ID 35754) > > >=20 > USA-206 (GPS IIRM-8) Rocket > > Body Aug 17, 2009 Sep 18, 2023 04:37:26 =C2=B1 1 hour > > KSLV-1 R/B (ID 39069) >=20 > > > STSAT-2C Rocket Body Jan 30, 2013 Sep 16, 2023 01:21:47 =C2=B1 1 hour > > ELECTRON R/B (ID 44635) >=20 > > > Palisade Rocket Body Oct 17, 2019 Sep 13, 2023 22:07:51 =C2=B1 1 hour > > STARLINK-30042 (ID 55702) >=20 > > > Starlink Group 6-1 Payload Feb 27, 2023 Sep 13, 2023 21:07:58 =C2=B1 3 > > hours > > > > Alex > > Le 20/09/2023 =C3=A0 00:55, Dave Taht via Starlink a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: > > The original poster of that to twitter walks it back to 54 since the > > beginning of the year. > > > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 7:48=E2=80=AFAM the keyboard of geoff goodfello= w via > > Starlink wrote: > > > > =E2=9E=94=E2=9E=94https://cybernews.com/news/starlink-lost-200-satellit= es/=20 > > > > > -- > > Geoff.Goodfellow@iconia.com > > living as The Truth is True > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Starlink mailing list > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink=20 > > > > > > > > > -- > > Oct 30: > > https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html=20 > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Starlink mailing list > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink=20 > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink=20 > --=20 **************************************************************** Dr. Ulrich Speidel School of Computer Science Room 303S.594 (City Campus) The University of Auckland u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz =20 http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~ulrich/ **************************************************************** --------------old5Dgmdx13jrkY0rZ0XwYpr Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes. The atmosphere doesn't really "end" at a certain alti= tude, it just gets thinner and thinner, which eventually means that the drag on spacecraft caused by the remaining air particles up there gets so low that the spacecraft can orbit for extended periods of time. But the drag isn't zero, and Low Earth Orbit sateIlites such as the Starlink birds suffer from some drag. The way to counteract that would normally be re-acceleration via small booster engines, but for these to work in space, you need fuel aboard the satellite, which will eventually run out. As LEOs move faster in denser atmosphere than MEOs and GEOs, that puts significant downward pressure on their lifetime (unless, like in the case of the ISS, you can refuel). 

In the case of Starlink, there is also the minor issue that their initial constellation that they started commercial ops with isn't ISL-capable, so there may be an incentive here to retire some satellites early, perhaps, and fill their orbital slots with more capable birds. 

The SpaceX folk on this list might wish to comment?

On 2/10/2023 11:15 pm, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote:
=20 One can see the starlink 're-entries' on some re-entry public databases.

On this one from aerospace.org, one can see starlink re-entries
yesterday, and also 29 sept., 27 sept., etc.

https://aerospace.org/reentries/grid

It seems to me - a non expert - that starlink regularly re-enters its
sats and puts new ones in orbit.  Maybe a starlink sat has a lifetime of
2-3 years.

> Object
> <https:= //aerospace.org/reentries/grid?field_reentry_sighting_value=3DAll&forma= t_select=3Dtable&reentry_timezone_selector=3DUTC&order=3Dtitle&= sort=3Dasc>
> Mission
> <https://aerospace.org/reentries/grid?field_reentry_sighting_value=3DAll&a= mp;format_select=3Dtable&reentry_timezone_selector=3DUTC&order=3Dfi= eld_mission&sort=3Dasc>
> Reentry Type
> <https://aerospace.org/reentries/grid?field_reentry_sighting_value=3D= All&format_select=3Dtable&reentry_timezone_selector=3DUTC&order= =3Dfield_reentry_type&sort=3Dasc>
> Launched
> <https://aerospace.org/reentries/grid?field_reentry_sighting_value=3DAll&= amp;format_select=3Dtable&reentry_timezone_selector=3DUTC&order=3Df= ield_launched&sort=3Dasc>
> Predicted Reentry Time
> <https://aerospace.org/reentries/grid?field_reentry_sighti= ng_value=3DAll&format_select=3Dtable&reentry_timezone_selector=3DUT= C&order=3Dfield_predicted_reentry_time&sort=3Ddesc>
>
> STARLINK-1868 (ID 47154) <https://aerospace.org/reentries/471= 54>
> Launch L15 Payload Nov 25, 2020 Oct 01, 2023 15:39:12 =C2=B1 16 hours
> IUS R/B(1) (ID 19884) <https://aerospace.org/reentries/19884<= /a>> STS
> 29/TDRS 4 Rocket Body Mar 13, 1989 Sep 30, 2023 12:32:28 =C2=B1 = 7 hours
> STARLINK-1074 (ID 44957) <https://aerospace.org/reentries/449= 57>
> Launch L2 Payload Jan 07, 2020 Sep 29, 2023 20:53:28 =C2=B1 3 hours
> STARLINK-5596 (ID 55476) <https://aerospace.org/reentries/554= 76>
> Launch Group 5-3 Payload Feb 02, 2023 Sep 27, 2023 17:41:11 =C2= =B1 6 hours
> STARLINK-2345 (ID 47886) <https://aerospace.org/reentries/478= 86>
> Launch L21 Payload Mar 14, 2021 Sep 27, 2023 15:58:50 =C2=B1 1 hour
> COSMOS 1124 (ID 11509) <https://aerospace.org/reentries/11509= > COSMOS
> 1124 Payload Aug 28, 1979 Sep 27, 2023 00:23:01 =C2=B1 1 hour > CERES-1 R/B (ID 57796) <https://aerospace.org/reentries/57796= > TIANQI
> 21-24 Rocket Body Sep 05, 2023 Sep 25, 2023 06:59:01 =C2=B1 1 ho= ur
> STARLINK-2212 (ID 47779) <https://aerospace.org/reentries/477= 79>
> Launch L17 Payload Mar 04, 2021 Sep 25, 2023 03:11:43 =C2=B1 1 hour
> STARLINK-1419 (ID 45694) <https://aerospace.org/reentries/456= 94>
> Launch L7 Payload Jun 04, 2020 Sep 24, 2023 11:01:39 =C2=B1 10 hours
> STARLINK-1026 (ID 44731) <https://aerospace.org/reentries/447= 31>
> Launch L1 Payload Nov 11, 2019 Sep 22, 2023 22:21:15 =C2=B1 3 hours
> ELECTRON KICK STAGE R/B (ID 55328)
> <https://aerospace.org/reentries/46929> SPACEBEE Rocket Body Nov
> 20, 2020 Sep 21, 2023 12:57:34 =C2=B1 1 hour
> SL-4 R/B (ID 57863) <https://aerospace.org/reentries/57863> SOYUZ
> MS-24 Rocket Body Sep 15, 2023 Sep 18, 2023 04:58:16 =C2=B1 1 ho= ur
> DELTA 2 R/B(2) (PAM-D) (ID 35754)
> <https://aerospace.org/reentries/35754> USA-206 (GPS IIRM-8) Rocket
> Body Aug 17, 2009 Sep 18, 2023 04:37:26 =C2=B1 1 hour
> KSLV-1 R/B (ID 39069) <https://aerospace.org/reentries/39069<= /a>>
> STSAT-2C Rocket Body Jan 30, 2013 Sep 16, 2023 01:21:47 =C2=B1 1 hour
> ELECTRON R/B (ID 44635) <https://aerospace.org/reentries/4463= 5>
> Palisade Rocket Body Oct 17, 2019 Sep 13, 2023 22:07:51 =C2=B1 1 hour
> STARLINK-30042 (ID 55702) <https://aerospace.org/reentries/55= 702>
> Starlink Group 6-1 Payload Feb 27, 2023 Sep 13, 2023 21:07:58 =C2=B1 3
> hours
>

Alex

Le 20/09/2023 =C3=A0 00:55, Dave Taht via Starlink a =C3=A9crit = :
> The original poster of that to twitter walks it back to 54 since the
> beginning of the year.
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 7:48=E2=80=AFAM the keyboard of geoff goodfellow via
> Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote= :
>
> =E2=9E=94=E2=9E=94https://cybernews.com/news/s= tarlink-lost-200-satellites/
>
> --
> Geoff.Goodfellow@iconia.com
> living as The Truth is True
>
> _______________________________________________
> Starlink mailing list
> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >
>
>
> --
> Oct 30:
> https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news= /the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html
> Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos
>
> _______________________________________________
> Starlink mailing list
> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink _______________________________________________
Starlink mailing list
Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
--=20
****************************************************************
Dr. Ulrich Speidel

School of Computer Science

Room 303S.594 (City Campus)

The University of Auckland
u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz=20
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~ulrich/
****************************************************************
--------------old5Dgmdx13jrkY0rZ0XwYpr--