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From: Eugene Chang <eugene.chang@alum.mit.edu>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>
Cc: Eugene Chang <eugene.chang@alum.mit.edu>,
	"starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink "Best Effort" offering
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2022 17:24:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <63D0EE5D-9CCE-479C-8BDD-B7A8DCB80925@alum.mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <760833.1664541518@dooku>


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Ow… the implications on no satellite to satellite routing is all traffic is one-hop. That puts limits on big patches of the Pacific Basin. (And not a solution for trans-pacific aircraft.)

Any clues how far apart are the ground stations? That is a lot of ground stations. This makes me reconsider (terrestrial) fixed-wireless as an alternative.

Gene
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> On Sep 30, 2022, at 2:38 AM, Michael Richardson via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> Signed PGP part
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> Eugene Y Chang via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>> Hmmmm….. is ground station positioning more about geographic topology
>> or managing subscriber density? I suspect it is easier to manage
>> subscriber density (and aggregate traffic) by building higher capacity
>> ground stations than by distributing ground stations.
> 
> Until they have satellite to satellite routing, the ground stations have to
> be "near" the users that they serve.
> 
> My understanding from this list is that's why they couldn't easily help Tongo: it
> was all just ocean "nearby" (and why they can help Ukraine)
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-30 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-28 19:53 Dotzero
2022-09-28 20:01 ` Dave Taht
2022-09-28 20:58   ` Dotzero
2022-09-28 21:02     ` David Lang
2022-09-28 21:04     ` Dave Taht
2022-09-28 23:07 ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-28 23:35   ` David Lang
2022-09-29  0:40     ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-29  4:29       ` David Lang
2022-09-29  7:50         ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-29  9:10           ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-09-29  9:14             ` David Lang
2022-09-29 19:38               ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-30 12:38                 ` Michael Richardson
2022-09-30 12:43                   ` Nathan Owens
2022-09-30 17:24                   ` Eugene Chang [this message]
2022-09-30 17:26                     ` Nathan Owens
2022-09-30 18:03                       ` Mike Puchol
2022-09-30 21:39 rob currie
2022-09-30 23:56 ` Eugene Chang

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