From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lang.hm; dkim=fail; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=none Received: from mail.lang.hm (wsip-70-167-213-146.ph.ph.cox.net [70.167.213.146]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35A93A69533 for ; Mon, 08 Dec 2025 22:15:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.2.2.53] (unknown [10.2.2.53]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB9A212EDF; Mon, 8 Dec 2025 13:15:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2025 14:15:23 -0700 (MST) From: David Lang To: Michael Richardson cc: David Lang , Inemesit Affia , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: <2609.1765228007@obiwan.sandelman.ca> Message-ID: <64n86r2n-qo8s-45or-36rr-9rrs41ors45p@ynat.uz> References: <00q8p152-5449-s323-7s0o-939sorop5o09@ynat.uz> <5c567cea-c078-4bb7-8ec5-736ed9b4ddd0@gmail.com> <3p3n0491-n2r6-0590-84ss-2p7n1o2145n0@ynat.uz> <6e38e498-ef47-4706-9d33-06e0b28bc3b1@gmail.com> <5098.1765221714@obiwan.sandelman.ca> <2609.1765228007@obiwan.sandelman.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-ID-Hash: LH4HD376TF4WLZWKL2BQEJ7TOUNAMALY X-Message-ID-Hash: LH4HD376TF4WLZWKL2BQEJ7TOUNAMALY X-MailFrom: david@lang.hm X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: Amazon Leo announcing up to 1 Gbps (DOWN) and 400 Mbps (UP) List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Michael Richardson wrote: > David Lang wrote: > > Michael Richardson wrote: > > >> Would be nice to be able to afford p2p video. > >> Would be fantastic if L3 decisions could occur in space when the recipients > >> are "nearby' > > > I've seen a lot of people using starlink for zoom calls without issues > > I mean, without zoom or any central server in some DC. > "Church' sends video directly. what uplink bandwith are they needing? I see many people using starlink to stream live 4k video of cameras from Starbase Tx, frequently multiple cameras per starlink. David Lang