From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=sewingwitch.com; dkim=pass header.d=comcastmailservice.net; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=none Received: from resqmta-h2p-567061.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-h2p-567061.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fd02:2446::6]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16F3F98943F for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2025 19:38:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from resomta-h2p-555058.sys.comcast.net ([96.102.179.196]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 256/256 bits) (Client did not present a certificate) by resqmta-h2p-567061.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPS id Lj0vv7LbUdYayLlI3vG108; Wed, 19 Nov 2025 16:44:19 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcastmailservice.net; s=20211018a; t=1763570661; bh=dWfS/vRPljNmke2WIf9SBjG4Wdn8RHhPVix/k1ioY0U=; h=Received:Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject: To:From:Content-Type:Xfinity-Spam-Result; b=op3ogr8UoOXXmtohGpbBOLyPUHjrSEEJ6i2SloYz+xpC+t+DJVcNwTslhiWCRyNVJ 6R345/mK5OYTQpsB+Sdi792mRwiHtITy+coGn8YBsVZZGMyIhdcV9cKHoQJl7s+bvi 6xY/zhFAOB2WlQxbtCSAdtg8rri4ubmbL2n0LUTypWXqi5g8pwOS+bvFPvVjjfa1wi k7dIzVUSg3w1piEUsqFQcVfv3mQKc8kaeeJJ2onxgJwxCQ6rBUoENYq7LGsVVNzVtZ l/B04Sb6gvs66PpI6KdutjGRWD2euGh4xjILGQX8L3koiVXv0GPskuz6eBmOdYkfMc LSJoJWOMgflDw== Received: from home.sewingwitch.com ([IPv6:2001:5a8:4783:1900:2e0:81ff:feb5:9463]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 256/256 bits) (Client did not present a certificate) by resomta-h2p-555058.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPSA id LlFsvMmgufHuqLlFyvqbb6; Wed, 19 Nov 2025 16:42:17 +0000 Received: from [10.96.7.39] ([10.96.7.39]) (authenticated bits=0) by home.sewingwitch.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 5AJGg0YV018501 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2025 08:42:00 -0800 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 home.sewingwitch.com 5AJGg0YV018501 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sewingwitch.com; s=default; t=1763570521; bh=dWfS/vRPljNmke2WIf9SBjG4Wdn8RHhPVix/k1ioY0U=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=OIZynSWeQn9b9v8unCZMXKw7BhrlLlVToK4S/nyuxCdbDf2uxe0Rq1HYq/sJvo+rj F+PKhrkU/E3h0rhLKAB5FInesfVCK4QKoEsjhnhXW55/+3YMPEnKz6Z9y6taae5wdI VFA2mE9ZcSrZSelUZsuxaJCJDPk8u0PVldym9TbE= Message-ID: <6cf9fb90-03ca-4c1d-9960-740e8819aec7@sewingwitch.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2025 08:41:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net References: From: Kenneth Porter Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.4.1 on 10.96.0.132 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfBijRp/88QI5mtC3x4dMEHKcwbEueoRpPN4N3eiNq+k5UR1DDXscVDIhXj+2ShAZVKaVWc2LZQ+9UWsyCjyQyl7td05NeEUhmixl2j0dZ0ZvvPxmYdEv IOEh6i/Hj8yHTogzyoGosbOY2yqMA+Rvn+P1xE+7YuMLkFUPklycli92+T5CnmffX6/pxxb+dRPoqRywkynynFRJD/t+l80S2odfE6E0X7BhIe7wl14jt12T pNkK3fjIKmhnAJF422CoFKtoMZr0SwTtNmXCJ8f7HGk= Message-ID-Hash: 2J43G7YW3FLXH5VGHPOGCJLALN4MIQ7Z X-Message-ID-Hash: 2J43G7YW3FLXH5VGHPOGCJLALN4MIQ7Z X-MailFrom: shiva@sewingwitch.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: How Starcloud Is Bringing Data Centers to Outer Space | NVIDIA Blog List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: We've been talking about space-based solar power stations feeding cities since the 1970s. (I was in the L5 Society in my teens then.) We thought this would be a good excuse to mine the moon for raw materials, build manufacturing cities in the L4 and L5 Lagrange points, and construct gigantic orbital solar arrays that would send the energy to Earth by microwave. (Lifting the raw material from the moon is practically free, using electromagnetic catapults instead of the expensive rockets needed for Earth-sourced materials.) The modern idea of putting data centers in orbit might be an even more practical driver to move industry into high orbit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L5_Society https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_solar_power