From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from host.stevenmansour.com (host.stevenmansour.com [67.222.2.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C11C3CB38 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2024 09:51:36 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thexlab.org ; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:From: References:Cc:To:Subject:Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=u4DZzqfo4aZBVa0M4zmO8u18pJYJ8Wyq2iq3J68U1IQ=; b=PRybQ1etGATw3Qho7o23O4JuQu hmIJX4sesqlNcuJYT3iorbs32/Iep3e25jO1GwiDO3GKuLQ/tr6lskkw9S5CZhPv+UYJn0cEJfll7 0qYcpYz5mwfZ9MKR/Qqa8lpfNnULTknH5Mii5mjeg2tXr0e8AbQ6yAqP3JJhA6aUAiKw=; Received: from [96.89.171.237] (port=47178 helo=[10.2.0.237]) by host.stevenmansour.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.98) (envelope-from ) id 1tFaR5-00000003ijM-115x; Mon, 25 Nov 2024 14:51:35 +0000 Message-ID: <6f678b2a-4827-4334-a3c2-75d01bf0f06b@thexlab.org> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 09:51:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Reply-To: sascha@thexlab.org To: Michael Richardson , Ulrich Speidel Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <7032.1732386555@obiwan.sandelman.ca> Content-Language: en-US From: Sascha Meinrath In-Reply-To: <7032.1732386555@obiwan.sandelman.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.stevenmansour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.bufferbloat.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - thexlab.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: host.stevenmansour.com: authenticated_id: sascha+thexlab.org/only user confirmed/virtual account not confirmed X-Authenticated-Sender: host.stevenmansour.com: sascha@thexlab.org Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink Internet Speeds Could Skyrocket to 2 Gigabits Per Second, SpaceX President Says X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 14:51:36 -0000 For those who haven't been following the Starshield project (and its exponential ramp-up)... I fully expect that Musk will focus more on military-industrial complex funding than in trying to repurpose FCC or NTIA support -- why fight in the trenches for hundreds of millions when you can repurpose billions/tens-of-billions elsewhere: https://spacenews.com/pentagons-commercial-satellite-internet-services-program-soars-to-13-billion/ And yes, Starshield is just as scary and prone for abuse as Michael alludes to. --Sascha On 11/23/24 13:29, Michael Richardson via Starlink wrote: > > Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote: > > to launch at a faster rate or with fewer sats per launch. It's also a bit > > more crowded in lower space, as this is where a lot of earth observation > > spacecraft sit (if you want to take detailed pics of the Earth's surface, you > > want it to be as close to your camera lens as you can have it), and some of > > those aren't there for open source public good science. > > > 1. I'm sure that spaceX could just include cameras for earth observation of dissidents. > 2. Earth observation will be obsolete according to Project 2025. > 3. Elon will own the FCC. > > > -- > Michael Richardson . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting ) > Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink -- Sascha Meinrath Director, X-Lab Palmer Chair in Telecommunications Penn State University