From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (syn-045-059-245-186.biz.spectrum.com [45.59.245.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF3BC3B29D for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2025 18:50:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.2.3.133] (unknown [10.2.3.133]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id C789D1F6E22; Mon, 17 Mar 2025 15:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 15:50:02 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang To: Hesham ElBakoury cc: 5grm-satellite@ieee.org, Dave Taht via Starlink In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6nn799r0-q896-4osn-23no-733oorno0p55@ynat.uz> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [Starlink] Alphabet spins off Starlink competitor Taara X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 22:50:04 -0000 Hesham ElBakoury wrote: > https://www.theverge.com/news/631049/alphabet-spins-off-starlink-competitor-taara?mc_cid=1a1e15a2db&mc_eid=105d343de1 Interesting, a laser in a professionally installed/aligned tower is going to be able to have a higher bandwidth than the starlink dishy. but the claim that it will be far cheaper than Starlink?? that tower and a ground station that tracks the satellites in real time is going to be FAR more expensive than a dishy. Since it's going to be in motion at all times, it's got mechanical parts to wear out, and physically re-aiming a laser between connections (on both ends) is going to be a lot slower than electronic aiming of a phased array antenna. As a community gateway where a lot of people share a single satellite connection, it could work, but even there I question if it would be cheaper. There's also the question of the cost of satellites. Are they willing to take the Starlink approach of cheap satellites? or are they still thinking 'industry standard' where each satellite is far bigger, heavier, and more expensive? David Lang