From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.ausics.net (mail.ausics.net [IPv6:2403:580a:1f3d::9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C97703CB37 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2023 07:04:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.ausics.net (valhalla.ausics.net [10.10.0.10]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.ausics.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB5DC200097; Mon, 4 Dec 2023 22:04:12 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ausics.net; s=dkim1; t=1701691452; bh=N4HQLPAnUl0ON6tDpoDLI8XoNmK+gmx5Ee9kP7TizQk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=he+pkarRHnkvq0zOJVhy6UODgUYUb8KKA8g1XA6aEHysOsCz5OOrxk3aPuewTt+fD GEWcBhmweahkh/ocxGB3hhSZKW6hCbARuvigBMqGLf6HLzOClLjZltSBqAoJ5JipKD 6Yfo73kU8uVXXrM7kIycYotNAx13R/Bdr5E/oF0n6PK3iZOfazXSo+E5QGqBKwgqU0 aNhngZ/jGh0z4BCo9i9aMxJ/0SanJP8GvdspgTSrm9iTq44B4QhnrHqUD/tMRtTEUQ crgRC/n5Hx8h+1ARB3UwzGvk56ouLcFHDO683WZKEXRFW6fCLCGh1q8g8qswDXwaVW 8wORb7MgzKh8g== Received: from kuby+3ZHbka3WXTz5stMOsN6OzON3zPEuFvuapwT/Rw= (HZtANi6pbFxi0HtL+II/pS5U9jfHS1Rx) by mail.ausics.net with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Mon, 04 Dec 2023 22:04:12 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2023 22:04:12 +1000 From: Noel Butler To: J Pan Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: References: <361ee9d0d01da491a6e2b132317d170b@ausics.net> User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail Message-ID: <75790520d6c8d35beb7248f5f5dff952@ausics.net> X-Sender: noel.butler@ausics.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_31712599a9c9f57d1844ce2bdfd81da6" Subject: Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2023 12:04:17 -0000 --=_31712599a9c9f57d1844ce2bdfd81da6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Thanks, it seems they are trying it on then :) On 04/12/2023 10:44, J Pan wrote: > starlink advertises its customer ip address location at > http://geoip.starlinkisp.net (not always updated but good enough in > most cases and traceroute can confirm to some extent as well) > -- > J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, > Web.UVic.CA/~pan > > On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 4:15 PM Noel Butler via Starlink > wrote: > >> I run an open access usenet server, but only for those within my CC, >> so access is by IP based on our CC allocations from APNIC. >> >> Because IPv4 exhaustion this changes sometimes with buying allocations >> from other regions, and if they get denied access I encourage them to >> let us know so we can keep ACL's updated, I've had a request from a >> starlink user who claims they are here, but traceroute shows them in >> .DE >> >> tracing some 217.foo.ad.dr >> >> ... >> 9 ae-6.r21.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.183) 290.223 ms >> 290.180 ms ae-1.r20.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.7.35) 280.523 >> ms >> 10 ae-1.a03.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.152) 290.109 ms >> 289.667 ms 292.864 ms >> 11 ae-0.spacex.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (213.198.72.19) 279.611 ms >> 278.840 ms 279.592 ms >> 12 undefined.hostname.localhost (206.224.65.189) 280.127 ms 278.506 ms >> 284.265 ms >> 13 undefined.hostname.localhost (206.224.65.209) 284.198 ms >> undefined.hostname.localhost (206.224.65.201) 274.663 ms 273.073 ms >> 14 * * * >> >> As it is our policy to not collect any user info or issue user/pass's >> and only allow access by IP, I'm hoping someone here knows if they >> are full of it, or does starlink really assign addresses from >> anywhere? That one hardly makes sense for user experience, or maybe >> starlink has so few users in this country they haven't bothered >> changing anything yet? >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> Noel Butler >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink -- Regards, Noel Butler --=_31712599a9c9f57d1844ce2bdfd81da6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

Thanks, it seems they are trying it on then :)

On 04/12/2023 10:44, J Pan wrote:

= starlink advertises its customer ip address location at
ht= tp://geoip.starlinkisp.net (not always updated but good enough in
= most cases and traceroute can confirm to some extent as well)
--
= J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pan

On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at = 4:15=E2=80=AFPM Noel Butler via Starlink
<starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

I run an open access usenet server, but only for= those within my CC, so access is by IP based on our CC allocations from AP= NIC.

Because IPv4 exhaustion this changes sometimes with buying = allocations from other regions, and if they get denied access I encourage t= hem to let us know so we can keep ACL's updated, I've had a request from a = starlink user who claims they are here, but traceroute shows them in .DE
tracing some 217.foo.ad.dr

...
9 ae-6.r21.frnkge13= =2Ede.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.183) 290.223 ms 290.180 ms ae-1.r20.frnkge1= 3.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.7.35) 280.523 ms
10 ae-1.a03.frnkge13.de= =2Ebb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.152) 290.109 ms 289.667 ms 292.864 ms
11 = ae-0.spacex.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (213.198.72.19) 279.611 ms 278.840 m= s 279.592 ms
12 undefined.hostname.localhost (206.224.65.189) 280.127 = ms 278.506 ms 284.265 ms
13 undefined.hostname.localhost (206.224.65= =2E209) 284.198 ms undefined.hostname.localhost (206.224.65.201) 274.663 ms= 273.073 ms
14 * * *


As it is our policy to not colle= ct any user info or issue user/pass's and  only allow access by IP, I'= m hoping someone here knows if they are full of it, or does starlink really= assign addresses from anywhere? That one hardly makes sense for user exper= ience, or maybe starlink has so few users in this country they haven't both= ered changing anything yet?

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Regards,
Noel But= ler


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Regards,
Noel Butler


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