From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lang.hm; dkim=fail; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=none Received: from mail.lang.hm (wsip-70-167-213-146.ph.ph.cox.net [70.167.213.146]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EDED12A8254 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2026 12:35:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.2.3.133] (unknown [10.2.3.133]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E3C229D99; Tue, 30 Jun 2026 03:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 03:35:19 -0700 (MST) From: David Lang To: Inemesit Affia cc: David Lang , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: <420d6743-7257-4a3a-9c6a-04ef0c445cbb@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7845q3q0-n9p9-4o7s-pp6o-qoq4o5570p4o@ynat.uz> References: <1ns7n619-n244-o592-91q3-38qn9qo4qn55@ynat.uz> <2n1s314p-768o-q2n1-0nn9-7q1n37rr60r2@ynat.uz> <420d6743-7257-4a3a-9c6a-04ef0c445cbb@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID-Hash: Q7TNKDVGNIQGHE7365PSX7LE5ZYMSVPH X-Message-ID-Hash: Q7TNKDVGNIQGHE7365PSX7LE5ZYMSVPH X-MailFrom: david@lang.hm X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: Ambani Launches 15 Billion Dollars Space War Against Starlink List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Inemesit Affia wrote: > There must be some disadvantages to flat sats. their surface area, frame size is bigger for the same internal volume. they don't pack around a 'normal' deployment column as well, you either need a starship style pez deployment (which isn't useful on things smaller than starhips) or you need to do the spin/release approach, which can result in your satellites colliding with each other (something nobody would ever consider with traditional satellite 'pet' mentality) > But it's worth noting that China is using them. they do not have as entrenched a tradition and are more willing to try things than western 'old space' companies David Lang