From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pl1-x633.google.com (mail-pl1-x633.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::633]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 864303B29D for ; Sat, 11 May 2024 14:11:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pl1-x633.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-1ec41d82b8bso29142925ad.2 for ; Sat, 11 May 2024 11:11:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=connectivitycap.com; s=google; t=1715451075; x=1716055875; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version:from :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=JNrvXQW9w6rcXjJiZT4hrmYyjpdx6Or1FTqdJxqBpeo=; b=kYGsTpXHRXXOBjLubqnaw4NiRyHgD9VlhNuy4+vdK+9okG+20Z5PD57Cg8vQ58lgUB c17IZl8Iaul+7E9YArDEfmdEGejOZViNAqnP6jAX891DjJ3o2OjrpP9Jzv2pJZgW7/zF xOy2+eAvuXpAP0O8XAMrRRhfEMyDMi9L6aXHocgU/wy3XdFPH0+on8UAy+f9Nu8aTodJ v7R42k4IUeE+xJfRqiK6RmqTE160lTrHmQAlssPXPFbSAAhIbwSReyRUdIrdo+LCPbDs osORu839IJSX659+0UvJUYo1xmOaOt4hTjxgJRsUnLjmRJH590ON35uk6oEURHua2pZT mX/w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1715451075; x=1716055875; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version:from :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=JNrvXQW9w6rcXjJiZT4hrmYyjpdx6Or1FTqdJxqBpeo=; b=b0/DQumF0hdmSKuZlYYZAUvFHMgjjdfVTLrlJcnvrBxWT2zlZle9zu44x5Ja9U06Uf 3FV+8MY248TrM3IfmuVL4NaPLyqsdovN/tm3htHOA1nXQYYFNhVSlAY8RX4FZgkYe9RY NYKEFLPwCQ2wwpCDkcJHdm059eA9vOoXZHUsOT86ap1buMcIAs6OfVrtmRL+ulPJuODA zbscTrBd21PUKn+kvlr//CncZeG8vBwoAGOHZsEVSYAx1kdIgm5kD9kKO1Q5j16D5FFx E6aMVlZ+s50q6wHVg5MAhVWYbeCNKw7gMBuJons22trz0daQal01qHpfMoJ33T9y6R4Q pzTg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwX+hGlRpFv0YHpBOL37tpSD/1KLa5qjVbbZ7xkxIyiHT3qsJQ0 QFN0NUQKDfJwNa2tqtT+OZUSCLh5ZAmrqCf8Dt/Zgq4mTrgwCRtJCiJoiSo6QvDzdrnQ+tUPbxj T X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFFHFPvSnGt4MqNUEhwMUlgOoLc3RbbgckClcrwpkgdGBTOpAp3epVbkvFJ08vzi5xgZB75zw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:d507:b0:1e7:e7ed:7787 with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-1ef43f522bdmr75721505ad.51.1715451075091; Sat, 11 May 2024 11:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([74.123.251.127]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d9443c01a7336-1ef0bf316f7sm51588435ad.164.2024.05.11.11.11.14 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 11 May 2024 11:11:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Forster Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E4A2C305-DB28-489C-BEE2-BCFFDB07A613" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.500.171.1.1\)) Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 11:10:53 -0700 References: To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <7A7D0225-FE7D-4FE8-943A-F3DFCE6952E1@connectivitycap.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.500.171.1.1) Subject: Re: [Starlink] Geoff Huston on StarLink TCP Performance X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 18:11:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E4A2C305-DB28-489C-BEE2-BCFFDB07A613 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Quite Interesting! Geoff notes the effects of StarLink=E2=80=99s delay = variations on TCP variants.. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ping/id1591549361?i=3D1000654196603 =E2=80=94 Jim --Apple-Mail=_E4A2C305-DB28-489C-BEE2-BCFFDB07A613 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8