From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bosmailout01.eigbox.net (bosmailout01.eigbox.net [66.96.189.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3A3F3B29E for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 20:19:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from bosmailscan02.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.2]) by bosmailout01.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1nMJpp-0002nN-Hm for starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 20:19:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alum.mit.edu; s=dkim; h=Sender:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date: Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Cc:To:From:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=wJ2tLbvFgqrh1Fv4mDscyCp5HxtK6AqzZ2czMO/b8hk=; b=anmvlMaZT1/j3J30qkY7F5mL6y Nk1i9rRm9nQZuA4QuS+wPdAIW9E9/F35CL/T1fjF9hsyE7IS2Krj5Coo6juPP6NxIn2jWCNmmaUEZ RWxVNZ+0nLQ1P443CtQ5mbkYIGawHWu9L0sh/6RG+fk32q3ibpLyo3znTcyqW6JNFmMnV3GOe3aIt GY//aBaQLih08m2u2I/oKVA1LvVGLYs3Pne+zA0gSLPqmHJsw40FPR1XIJLohiqPqL/vlErdwgJ6K d8z/48oU6jI2mx48iiqlYg6P/QRzEEm10WGNxgggHcY+xz/6WOEAKZIP/4SBNCG9dvUZYSp0b1qU0 QePycIcg==; Received: from [10.115.3.33] (helo=bosimpout13) by bosmailscan02.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1nMJpp-00056V-93 for starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 20:19:21 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp16.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.20.18.16]) by bosimpout13 with id y1KJ260020LoEWa011KMFS; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 20:19:21 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=RNUo47q+ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=2OW49aEHms2tn/AeNJ+rfA==:117 a=nIEF4cAZMyOU5h9mcfI6lg==:17 a=oGFeUVbbRNcA:10 a=6ulraYUaiNAA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=kurRqvosAAAA:8 a=mSLlwRZSAAAA:8 a=Wtcf5JMmBO45kxIJnF8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=fkf4GCeOYUwA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=ECBRV5l7kpT-VW0UgOEA:9 a=PNSy3CZfb7LD4j-H:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=kbxRQ_lfPIoQnHsAj2-A:22 a=ofaL3iuw9xeESQnpeQ8E:22 Received: from c-67-180-86-211.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ([67.180.86.211]:52336 helo=SRA6) by bosauthsmtp16.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1nMJpl-0000cs-Ms; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 20:19:17 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Dick Roy" To: "'Nathan Owens'" , "'Steve Golson'" Cc: References: <1p492142-q944-r494-6s6r-p6q37s57qnq4@ynat.uz> <1F1EB112F8CB446FAB4BF308A76955FA@SRA6> <0ac195f5-3668-4c96-8dec-8a2d59a0bd52@Spark> <866405-s043-n12n-6pqs-46o38r189218@ynat.uz> <124bf4f8-7512-2f13-b6ce-f3159c390110@trilobyte.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:19:13 -0800 Organization: SRA Message-ID: <7AF3C232602E4C33917C55A746F54460@SRA6> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0A79_01D82747.28602320" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AdgneQg6vwxivgaLREa8PYuCqDIslwAEGiJQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE X-EN-UserInfo: f809475445fb8041985048e338e1a001:931c98230c6409dcc37fa7e93b490c27 X-EN-AuthUser: dickroy@intellicommunications.com Sender: "Dick Roy" X-EN-OrigIP: 67.180.86.211 X-EN-OrigHost: c-67-180-86-211.hsd1.ca.comcast.net Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink Roaming X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 01:19:22 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0A79_01D82747.28602320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _____ From: Starlink [mailto:starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of Nathan Owens Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 3:16 PM To: Steve Golson Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink Roaming Oh duh, yes, reading the wrong bit. It definitely has GPS, but beyond that, not sure. On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 3:08 PM Steve Golson wrote: On 2/21/22 4:58 PM, Nathan Owens wrote: > Per the debug data, the dish has GPS, a Gyroscope, a Magnetometer, and an Accelerometer. Actually, the app is reporting the sensors that your phone has, not what the dish has. The dish has GPS and accelerometer at least. Perhaps a magnetometer as well, but it can find north just using GPS. [RR] I'd be interested in knowing how the dishy gets orientation from GPS. Does it have three spatially diverse GPS antennas and receivers so it can determine its orientation? I suspect not. Also, a single accelerometer and magnetometer are generally insufficient to uniquely determine orientation in 3-D space. There's clearly a bit more to this to uncover:-))) RR -Steve -- Steve Golson / Trilobyte Systems / +1.978.369.9669 / sgolson@trilobyte.com Consulting in: Verilog, synthesis, patent analysis, reverse engineering _______________________________________________ Starlink mailing list Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink ------=_NextPart_000_0A79_01D82747.28602320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

 

From: = Starlink [mailto:starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of Nathan Owens
Sent: Monday, February = 21, 2022 3:16 PM
To: Steve Golson
Cc: = starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] = Starlink Roaming

 

Oh duh, yes, reading the wrong bit. It definitely has GPS, but = beyond that, not sure.

 

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 3:08 PM Steve Golson <sgolson@trilobyte.com> = wrote:

On 2/21/22 4:58 PM, Nathan Owens wrote:
> Per the debug data, the dish has GPS, a Gyroscope, a Magnetometer, = and an Accelerometer.

Actually, the app is reporting the sensors that your phone has, not what = the dish has.

The dish has GPS and accelerometer at least. Perhaps a magnetometer as = well, but it can find north just using GPS.

[RR] I’d be interested in knowing how the dishy = gets orientation from GPS.  Does it have three spatially diverse GPS = antennas and receivers so it can determine its orientation?  I suspect not. = Also, a single accelerometer and magnetometer are generally insufficient to uniquely = determine orientation in 3-D space.  There’s clearly a bit more to this = to uncoverJ<= /i>))  =

 

RR



-Steve

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Consulting in: Verilog, synthesis, patent analysis, reverse = engineering
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