From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from cirse-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (cirse-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.148]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A15213CB38 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 04:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from e-emp-a0.extra.cea.fr (e-emp-a0.extra.cea.fr [132.167.198.35]) by cirse-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 45A8vRC3029285 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 10:57:27 +0200 Received: from pps.filterd (e-emp-a0.extra.cea.fr [127.0.0.1]) by e-emp-a0.extra.cea.fr (8.18.1.2/8.18.1.2) with ESMTP id 45A2v2At018975 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 10:57:27 +0200 Received: from muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.12]) by e-emp-a0.extra.cea.fr (PPS) with ESMTP id 3yn3yckfxs-1 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 10:57:27 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [10.8.32.70] (is156570.intra.cea.fr [10.8.32.70]) by muguet1-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 45A8vRAQ021632 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 10:57:27 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------ZZIdkvVLQAR3QJEpxi9yQ8Xq" Message-ID: <7a905c03-a3b2-477c-acd1-ec05d60e3862@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 10:57:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net References: Content-Language: fr From: Alexandre Petrescu In-Reply-To: X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: 3nF3aN_Q4RWvSiU4amJaQIG4Pvx50m-F X-Proofpoint-GUID: 3nF3aN_Q4RWvSiU4amJaQIG4Pvx50m-F Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starship's 4th flight test was magnificent X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 08:57:28 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------ZZIdkvVLQAR3QJEpxi9yQ8Xq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Le 10/06/2024 à 01:50, Dave Taht via Starlink a écrit : > > [...] seeing starlink maintain connectivity through nearly it all of > that plasma was amazing, too. I dont understand: the rocket body and head ('starship')  where connected to starlink sats during flight?  Wouldnt be enough to transmit straight to ground?  Or maybe the entire trajectory is too long too distanced from ground receivers? Alex > To be massively cheered up about spaceflight, hit starlink's web site > for the video. It is hard to imagine them attempting a catch of the > booster for flight 5, that close to boca chica, but... > > But that left questions for me. How much overweight are Starship and > the booster now? How much payload can they actually push to an orbit > suitable for deploying starlink? When will they attempt payloads? > > The second set of questions are that the newer, larger Starlink > satellites were designed, oh, 4 years ago? with about 4x the capacity > of the existing ones, and I imagine (and hope) that they have been > continually redesigned with an eye to latency now, as well as > capacity. Seeing something like fq_codel actually make orbit would be > a capstone to my career, when I started off wanting to be an "orbital > mechanic"  in the first place but exited entirely after challenger > went down... > > Lastly, I couldn't help but imagine small repair robots deploying once > in orbit to get a full view of every tile on starship, and perhaps > effect repairs. Call 'em Hewey, Duey and Louie.... > > Ad Astra! > > -- > https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7203400057172180992/ > Donations Drive. > Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink --------------ZZIdkvVLQAR3QJEpxi9yQ8Xq Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


Le 10/06/2024 à 01:50, Dave Taht via Starlink a écrit :

[...] seeing starlink maintain connectivity through nearly it all of that plasma was amazing, too.

I dont understand: the rocket body and head ('starship')  where connected to starlink sats during flight?  Wouldnt be enough to transmit straight to ground?  Or maybe the entire trajectory is too long too distanced from ground receivers?

Alex

To be massively cheered up about spaceflight, hit starlink's web site for the video. It is hard to imagine them attempting a catch of the booster for flight 5, that close to boca chica, but...

But that left questions for me. How much overweight are Starship and the booster now? How much payload can they actually push to an orbit suitable for deploying starlink? When will they attempt payloads?

The second set of questions are that the newer, larger Starlink satellites were designed, oh, 4 years ago? with about 4x the capacity of the existing ones, and I imagine (and hope) that they have been continually redesigned with an eye to latency now, as well as capacity. Seeing something like fq_codel actually make orbit would be a capstone to my career, when I started off wanting to be an "orbital mechanic"  in the first place but exited entirely after challenger went down...

Lastly, I couldn't help but imagine small repair robots deploying once in orbit to get a full view of every tile on starship, and perhaps effect repairs. Call 'em Hewey, Duey and Louie....

Ad Astra!

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