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Using Starlink from a fixed location Could Be Bad. --dave On 2024-02-23 13:13, Eugene Chang via Starlink wrote: On Feb 23, 2024, at 3:23 AM, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: Le 23/02/2024 =C3=A0 13:04, Dave Taht via Starlink a =C3=A9crit : https://twitter.com/Megaconstellati/status/1760996758363029734 In general, two can play at this game, and given the low cost and good range, and relative ease of building a sensor for the starlink frequencies, I see starlinks fading from the battlefield. For that matter, nearly every form of electronic communication, be it wifi, or 5G. Fiber or laser will be used instead. But laser could be blinded by counter-lasers, fiber could be cut by scissor= s, etc. Measures, counter-measures, counter-counter-measures and so on, equally wel= l on each of these media. Alex The point is some media can be remotely detected and targeted. Laser is harder to detect than wireless (radio). Fiber is even harder to be detected remotely. 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When I was in  the reserves (in an era of dinosaurs and stone axes)= , the regulars were using encrypted, frequency-agile radios. They were hard= to localize unless you were so close that they were the loudest thing on t= he airwaves.

Using Starlink from a fixed location Could Be Bad.

--dave

On 2024-02-23 13:13, Eugene Chang via Starli= nk wrote:




On Feb 23, 2024, at 3:23 AM, Alexand=
re Petrescu via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> =
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Le 23/02/2024 =C3=A0 13:04, Dave Taht via Starlink a =C3=A9crit :





http=
s://twitter.com/Megaconstellati/status/1760996758363029734
In general, two can play at this game, and given the low cost and good
range, and relative ease of building a sensor for the starlink
frequencies, I see starlinks fading from the battlefield. For that
matter, nearly every form of electronic communication, be it wifi, or
5G. Fiber or laser will be used instead.





But laser could be blinded by counter-lasers, fiber could be cut by scissor=
s, etc.

Measures, counter-measures, counter-counter-measures and so on, equally wel=
l on each of these media.

Alex





The point is some media can be remotely detected and targeted.

Laser is harder to detect than wireless (radio).
Fiber is even harder to be detected remotely.

Gene











See also the flipper zero.
https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/02/canada-vows-to-ban-flipper-zero-d=
evice-in-crackdown-on-car-theft/





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