From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: Mike Puchol <mike@starlink.sx>
Cc: Daniel AJ Sokolov <daniel@falco.ca>, David Lang <david@lang.hm>,
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink Roaming
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 00:51:30 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2022, Mike Puchol wrote:
> Actually, laser links would make gateway connectivity *worse*. If we take the scenario attached, one gateway is suddenly having to serve traffic from all UTs that were not previously under coverage.
but if you can easily route traffic to a ground station that's further away and
not currently saturated...
> Eventually they will go for optical gateways, it’s the only way to get enough capacity to the constellation, specially the 30k satellite version.
optical is much more affected by weather than RF, so it's a trade-off (but with
laser satellites, they can route around some weather to more distant ground
stations
David Lang
>
>
> Best,
>
> Mike
> On Feb 22, 2022, 05:17 +0300, David Lang <david@lang.hm>, wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022, Daniel AJ Sokolov wrote:
>>> On 2022-02-21 at 13:52, David Lang wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They told me that I could try it, and it may work, may be degraded a
>>>> bit, or may not work at all. They do plan to add roaming capabilities in
>>>> the future (my guess is that the laser satellites will enable a lot more
>>>> flexibility)
>>>
>>> Isn't that a very optimistic assessment? :-)
>>>
>>> Laser links are great for remote locations with very few users, but how
>>> could they relieve overbooking of Starlink in areas with too many users?
>>>
>>> The laser links can reduce the required density of ground stations, but
>>> they don't add capacity to the network. Any ground station not built
>>> thanks to laser links adds load to other ground stations - and, maybe
>>> more importantly, adds load to the satellite that does eventually
>>> connect to a ground station.
>>>
>>> Can laser links really help on a large scale, or are they just a small
>>> help here and there?
>>
>> My thinking is that the laser links will make it possible to route the traffic
>> from wherever I am to the appropriate ground station that I'm registered with as
>> opposed to the current bent-pipe approach where, if I move to far from my
>> registered location, I need to talk to a different ground station.
>>
>> Currently there are two limits in any area for coverage:
>>
>> 1. satellite bandwidth
>> 2. ground station bandwidth
>>
>> laser links will significantly reduce the effect of the second one.
>>
>> We know that they can do mobile dishes (they are testing it currently on Elon's
>> gulfstream, FAR more mobile that I will ever be :-) )
>>
>> David Lang
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Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-14 19:53 Jonathan Bennett
2022-02-14 20:29 ` David Lang
2022-02-14 21:43 ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-14 21:53 ` Jonathan Bennett
2022-02-14 21:59 ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-21 7:22 ` Larry Press
2022-02-21 7:29 ` David Lang
2022-02-21 20:31 ` Dick Roy
2022-02-21 20:43 ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-21 20:52 ` David Lang
2022-02-21 21:17 ` Dick Roy
2022-02-21 21:32 ` David Lang
2022-02-21 21:58 ` Nathan Owens
2022-02-21 22:26 ` Dick Roy
2022-02-21 23:08 ` Steve Golson
2022-02-21 23:15 ` Nathan Owens
2022-02-22 1:19 ` Dick Roy
2022-02-21 22:02 ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2022-02-22 2:17 ` David Lang
2022-02-22 5:34 ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-22 7:20 ` Dick Roy
2022-02-22 7:42 ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-22 7:51 ` Dick Roy
2022-02-22 9:03 ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-02-22 9:40 ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-22 9:46 ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-02-22 10:01 ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-22 10:37 ` Vint Cerf
2022-02-22 11:14 ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-22 7:58 ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-22 8:51 ` David Lang [this message]
2022-02-22 7:47 ` Dick Roy
2022-02-22 8:55 ` David Lang
2022-02-22 23:14 ` Dick Roy
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