From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lang.hm; dkim=fail; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=none Received: from mail.lang.hm (wsip-70-167-213-146.ph.ph.cox.net [70.167.213.146]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B970E9FACD for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2026 05:02:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.2.3.133] (unknown [10.2.3.133]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425D921F406; Mon, 23 Mar 2026 21:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2026 21:02:14 -0700 (MST) From: David Lang To: Daniel AJ Sokolov cc: Dave Taht via Starlink In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7qrq5oq9-n28o-9q69-5sn5-84r91411qs8n@ynat.uz> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-ID-Hash: LGQ64IWLVYE67KGNJMRPDQ2DBNYNSHCA X-Message-ID-Hash: LGQ64IWLVYE67KGNJMRPDQ2DBNYNSHCA X-MailFrom: david@lang.hm X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: FCC declares all new router models illegal List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: If they are actually banning FCC certification for anything not built in the US, I don't expect it to last very long, the outcry will just be too much. and if they ban opensource software, they will ban all routers and a lot of other stuff as well. David Lang On Mon, 23 Mar 2026, Daniel AJ Sokolov via Starlink wrote: > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2026 17:36:17 -0700 > From: Daniel AJ Sokolov via Starlink > Reply-To: Daniel AJ Sokolov > To: Dave Taht via Starlink > Subject: [Starlink] FCC declares all new router models illegal > > Dear All, > > this may be somewhat off topic, but I think you will all want to know this: > Today, the FCC has declared that only routers manufactured in the US may > obtain valid FCC certification. > > "Production generally includes any major stage of the process through which > the device is made, including manufacturing, assembly, design, and > development." > > I am not aware of any consumer grade router that would be considered made in > the US under these rules. Are there any? > > Are there any routers that work entirely without open source software? > > Previously approved routers are still OK - kind of. The challenge there is > that software updates are affected by the new restrictions. The FCC has > provided an exemption until March 1, 2027, for certain software updates - > after that, who knows. > > Manufacturers can apply for exemptions, if - and only if - they have a > detailed, time-bound "U.S. Manufacturing and Onshoring Plan", Also, they must > disclose competition-sensitive information. > > For the official documents, start here: > https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers > > FYI > Daniel > > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list -- starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > To unsubscribe send an email to starlink-leave@lists.bufferbloat.net >