From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 030983B2A4; Fri, 24 May 2024 08:22:53 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1716553372; x=1717158172; i=moeller0@gmx.de; bh=eduUo7BDRI05aSeTYZ8dxXb1QV4d+WiRYjxGmNw13fg=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From: In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id: References:To:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from: message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject:to; b=Gn8g4R4pZsvdTf9fq/rS33xv55TE8GqDkxZi4X1F7GIP265Lmwvl6bJnFJxuimiW eh6rvwVl8u5CZj3lrMTVsu2bUJQENLAIt0azzH6FaFtK2xS1jzBTH4UN+IYQnibct NeA0s4haIqK8iI6e03mbAvFkeUHxhJQU5escvVOZqSh3+OmPcK9X3rcpnoPAUKlux Pgzw4c8SD/367Oxp/WR1jAF6jiMsQIeHG8G262kvW7KAsEw9dcm7zwVJpdf/obaye wGxwz2OEe96rADRUaSSK6mDKEtIGYfuI0Xq5boN4oJvr3fxhqfhDV6uRQUOMM2Z9C /WdVPXOVTxggStR5Ig== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from smtpclient.apple ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N5G9n-1scDXt0GAv-011F78; Fri, 24 May 2024 14:22:52 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.600.62\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 14:22:41 +0200 Cc: bloat , Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <80A2E78D-1E4B-4CCA-9759-9E2273257DD1@gmx.de> References: To: Frantisek Borsik X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.600.62) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:50R9MVdftjKYVC1SM6jocinKrCrsXY7K/QvCHctayGBGFbzYmsQ 81QLcnmAvTphOk8jwklX5DOP1cz4M1o/ffl0QgiJuW++c7adLFtL0uUOkmm53AKZsBAz+lV UdVqF5dh/Xnc858im2m7Xh2ESRMn8Bs8x73ruS8OPKTUR4+LgqmHbVd8Zyw7ndxFQSHA0Zi nnPKcf8ynJASySPS6E6qQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:L6YVFXycqqs=;We+YFoWdw6CSX68FPhoHTcENCNZ BNhu3R/D8tC9Xg7QhMMmTaVvUpZ1dxlqfc5gXYsYq55/Nd1Uc9yq5AhN2XFNHWTHCBdD9Ke+F RvoxH6VrJ5Pj0NA2Ik6ZnIKY+cpd0BWENFZvb6br5M7lZ311jDB1bgQ8bkyBmD+eZN47ub2ij nAavT3BqqLP0QjA108vGevZV9Hc1BiKE9GdG3Sr9rVKdFAON/UH3SY4p4IxheEwERwui7R/Da cP80w2Nuy8tNenJ2XKsJMOu81BZPoLMTrfO/OOb+nfmSpYmBDU0nfp1qR2xjmMn6zDGwOCxOL urNj5PHPqOLNKdNwAt6OU4b2kdoK5scLFhoYQgsmx4aYllVQ+jSbb/SRO+m6xV/FoSkGXRJGH kyPQVG4Pv24R6bh9XGO97iKwIPvOya6uVU3jN4FA7KBbGH1CZ3ZwYqs3F4yaoEUBk7qjf1VGi xO+O/cd92kY7yKf38b/J6k/wWPTm+h5S7RQvuoGwPRShcdDdvTO+d2nGTbdQayrMJHHxK1KnB GEQYR694OZooyfWCQiIhQ0bmQJZUXcjRvZ2Sp5dLL/uE4E4CAyM91W9mnfLeDBrUnu8Oo+I8A r3Qk9sagPMoEZvj5i3R8a9KaEdHOMr3PQjSyt4krSdhd0+U7HmkpXr+fej/9JG3KWWK2ofJSO LQLgKNc+D9yq6zs96wNtL0eRv/8YQAK5WV0SG62BWo8JrVekWcd/S+A7iowVUmfIv1Sqv6qsl M6xu4EOtkvutMPIrP13HLzTT+cYCfYMrg9U0xIyAKMIxJNI/LV5yxYiG11+p1Qg/+SbqnxLNl 5eWw6aANIkBv7Fc8EaBXzsQd68aVOvfJ7xkuaYfKnyBCw= Subject: Re: [Starlink] [Bloat] "New analysis of Cloudflare Aggregated Internet Measurement (AIM) data from NetForecast, leveraging open Measurement Lab backend" X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 12:22:54 -0000 Figure 17 illustrates starlinks latency reduction effort pretty well. I guess folks on this list already know, but still this implies that = there might have been two stages in latency reduction so far (or I might = be massively overinterpret the plotted curve ;) ) Regards & Thanks Jason & Frantisek Sebastian > On 24. May 2024, at 13:41, Frantisek Borsik via Bloat = wrote: >=20 > = https://www.netforecast.com/wp-content/uploads/NFR5150_NetForecast-ISP-Per= formance-Report-2024.pdf >=20 > Originally shared by Jason Livingood on Twitter/X: > https://x.com/jlivingood/status/1793664523557286216 > His thread contains some additional reading. >=20 > All the best, >=20 > FrankFrantisek (Frank) Borsik > https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik > Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714=20 > iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 > Skype: casioa5302ca > frantisek.borsik@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat