Re: [Starlink] Starlink Roaming

[David Lang <david@lang.hm>]

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that's what happened when I tried to use it ~60 miles away, but when I tried to 
use it ~25 miles away I got the attached error very quickly.

I've used it at a couple locations 5-10 miles away without a problem

I asked starlink support about roaming and it's currently not supported, you can 
change the registered location, and if a slot is available, they'll approve it 
and guarantee service (view of the sky permitting). But when you do that you 
give up the slot at your home location and are not guaranteed to be able to move 
it back.

They told me that I could try it, and it may work, may be degraded a bit, or may 
not work at all. They do plan to add roaming capabilities in the future (my 
guess is that the laser satellites will enable a lot more flexibility)

David Lang

On Mon, 21 Feb 2022, Mike Puchol wrote:

> From what I have observed, there is a new “roaming” flag in terminal properties that determines roaming capability. Mine is false, and I could not get service if I set the service address too far.
>
> The way the UT does it is, after startup, it moves to zero tilt, then searches and registers with any passing satellite, likely using a low-rate, omnidireccional beacon. The backend then informs the terminal if it is out of its service address, and if so, it will just sit there doing nothing (although it does periodically send stuff).
>
> Best,
>
> Mike
> On Feb 21, 2022, 23:31 +0300, Dick Roy <dickroy@alum.mit.edu>, wrote:
>> What does your contract say about the "where" you can expect service from
>> your dishy? I suspect the system is capable of tracking all users at all
>> times they're in coverage which is how they could/would enforce a
>> contractual limitation/constraint.
>>
>> RR
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Starlink [mailto:starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of
>> David Lang
>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:30 PM
>> To: Larry Press
>> Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink Roaming
>>
>> tonight I took it to a friends house about 25 miles away and within a couple
>> min
>> it gave me an error message saying that I wasn't at my assigned location.
>>
>> David Lang
>>
>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022, Larry Press wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 07:22:44 +0000
>>> From: Larry Press <lpress@csudh.edu>
>>> To: David Lang <david@lang.hm>,
>>> Jonathan Bennett <jonathanbennett@hackaday.com>
>>> Cc: "starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink Roaming
>>>
>>> David brought his dish to my location -- about fifty miles from his
>> service loacation and in a different cell and it could not connect. We had a
>> clear view of the entire sky. He speculated that that was because it was
>> registered to use a specific ground station that was out of range at my
>> place. Does that seem reasonable?
>>>
>>> Larry Press
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Starlink <starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> on behalf of David
>> Lang <david@lang.hm>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 12:29 PM
>>> To: Jonathan Bennett <jonathanbennett@hackaday.com>
>>> Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink Roaming
>>>
>>> I asked starlink about temp service away from my registered location, they
>> said
>>> I have two options
>>>
>>> 1. formally change the service location (if approved, guaranteed to work,
>> but
>>> you aren't guaranteed to be able to change the service location back)
>>>
>>> 2. best effort, set it up and try it. Service may perfect, or may be worse
>> (all
>>> the way to non-existant) depending on how many other dishes are in use in
>> the
>>> area.
>>>
>>> I've done some limited testing with my dish within about 15 miles of my
>>> registered location (in both cases with less than optimal sky views) and
>> it's
>>> worked without a hitch. I plan to do a test further away this weekend (but
>> in a
>>> less populated area, so I have high hopes)
>>>
>>> David Lang
>>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2022, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
>>>
>>>> It appears that there is now a system in place for Starlink to re-connect
>>>> even if you are outside your official service cell. For those of us who
>>>> want to use Starlink on vacations or other trips, this is quite the
>>>> development.
>>>>
>>>> --Jonathan Bennett
>>>>
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