From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from korolev.univ-paris7.fr (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B32D3B2A4 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 15:57:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from potemkin.univ-paris7.fr (potemkin.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:1]) by korolev.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay1/82085) with ESMTP id 38IJvgax013290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Sep 2023 21:57:42 +0200 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [81.194.30.253]) by potemkin.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay2/82085) with ESMTP id 38IJvgVj008948; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 21:57:42 +0200 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EEF710DF; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 21:57:41 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=irif.fr; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:mime-version :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from :message-id:date:date:received:received; s=dkim-irif; t= 1695067059; x=1695931060; bh=2dp50VoF+T2+b9HolQ8Xef+Qkyxffd8aUQ9 /tj/UOX0=; b=GMrVfb2Ujr03U4Xdw6LbpDidYWpnl0TdyqCODZsJfEcUqJ7xQiU lmsG7Y3bJHwyGdi4rY5pl5Pj7DFeQ3bjmMECC4wENPAs8lfAbVnPU56R6QNos++T 67jGUBwhc8W4S9Em4sVGKCeDeMlL9xYcNY0WWbb0euO4DbSFQGYyNyZxiqr9czjB lMvJjo9ShmfbzG0FXcCnxPQTZAh+NmT+J9mSgajuOhttqroDqS/ldb4oqF7B/RYL ls+cu7o5JR+GsbQnAMFEPCac4iooC6emTutSVpwqhMIFpTdYdOmmWTerJ5d7tgl/ VNTjDw9LKasISbQYtcCdGTUtBSsp0etb3IQ== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at math.univ-paris-diderot.fr Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id II8ZuBhojsOl; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 21:57:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pirx.irif.fr (unknown [78.194.40.74]) (Authenticated sender: jch) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E4F2370FC4; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 21:57:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 21:57:38 +0200 Message-ID: <87a5tjqmod.wl-jch@irif.fr> From: Juliusz Chroboczek To: Frantisek Borsik Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink , Michael Richardson In-Reply-To: References: <87msxjqwhj.wl-jch@irif.fr> <8658.1695062436@localhost> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/29.1 Mule/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:2]); Mon, 18 Sep 2023 21:57:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (potemkin.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.141]); Mon, 18 Sep 2023 21:57:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at korolev with ID 6508ABB6.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-Miltered: at potemkin with ID 6508ABB6.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 6508ABB6.000 from potemkin.univ-paris7.fr/potemkin.univ-paris7.fr/null/potemkin.univ-paris7.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 6508ABB6.000 from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/null/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 6508ABB6.000 on korolev.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : XX : R=### U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.300 X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 6508ABB6.000 on potemkin.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : XX : R=### U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.300 X-j-chkmail-Status: Unsure X-j-chkmail-Status: Unsure Subject: Re: [Starlink] impressed with my starlink today X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 19:57:43 -0000 > Galene should be great - I’m willing to help to make it usable as easily as > fucking Zoom. But are Galene guys really willing to make that leap? What leap? If you're suggesting I should stop teaching and participate in a startup, then no, I'm not willing to do that. If you're suggesting that you want to redo the UI from scratch, the I'd be thrilled. I'm completely incompetent at UI, and I'd love to be able to concentrate on the networking side. -- Juliusz