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From: Mike Puchol <mike@starlink.sx>
To: Starlink list <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Cc: Starlink list <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink cheaper in Colombia,cand gps spoofing
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2023 18:09:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <895ff23b-a263-4cf1-abf5-d403a63e5b0c@Spark> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANjd3nebaOe7S75-TJn2z0P4pcKut1eZF=C5ywwi0LrFnomn5Q@mail.gmail.com>

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I can confirm that spoofing with “non-milspec” methods don’t seem to work against the receiver in the Starlink terminal. I tried with a HackRF and a USRP and it didn’t work, while an Android phone was spoofed fine. I was however able to jam the receiver with very moderate power levels and a sweep generated with a HackRF Portapack and patch antenna.

Best,

Mike
On Jan 1, 2023 at 17:23 +0100, Benjamin Henrion via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>, wrote:
> > Le dim. 1 janv. 2023 à 12:49, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> a écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Starlink has a multisystem GNSS receiver with data filtering, so it
> > > can't be fooled with the single HackRF (i tested it).
>
> Here they describe another method with gps jammers:
>
> https://gpspatron.com/spoofing-a-multi-band-rtk-gnss-receiver-with-hackrf-one-and-gnss-jammer/
>
> > >
> > > I experimented with NMEA data injected directly into the Dishy operating
> > > system, so I can tell there is no way to cheat the system.
> > > Satellites know your location a wouldn't accept a connection from the
> > > client in an unexpected Cell. All connection slots for all clients and
> > > areas are scheduled.
> > >
> > > Besides this, Starlink requires valid and strict GNSS and 1PPS to sync
> > > the local clock, that's vital for the TDD system.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/1/23 13:18, Benjamin Henrion via Starlink wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Just wondering if you could pay less by pretending to be in Colombia
> > > > by spoofing gps sats with a HackRF board:
> > > >
> > > > https://mobile.twitter.com/GeoffreyHuntley/status/1609490537484275712
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
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> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Oleg Kutkov
> > >
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-01 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-01 11:18 Benjamin Henrion
2023-01-01 11:48 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-01-01 11:49 ` Oleg Kutkov
2023-01-01 12:01   ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-01-01 14:26     ` Nathan Owens
2023-01-01 16:23   ` Benjamin Henrion
2023-01-01 17:09     ` Mike Puchol [this message]
2023-01-01 17:17       ` Oleg Kutkov

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