From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (unknown [66.167.227.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1EE83CB37 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 03:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dlang-mobile (unknown [10.2.2.70]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24761457A3; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 00:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 00:33:16 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang To: Ulrich Speidel cc: Sebastian Moeller , Ulrich Speidel via Starlink In-Reply-To: <2321be3b-957f-2d1f-c335-119c8e76efe5@auckland.ac.nz> Message-ID: <8978587-42op-q175-2o41-qq9p4491459s@ynat.uz> References: <1661878433.14064713@apps.rackspace.com> <6p5n9262-3745-pq31-5636-1rnon987o255@ynat.uz> <20220830220710.GA2653@sunf10.rd.bbc.co.uk> <15982a40-2b34-7ed1-bfa3-bced03fc3839@auckland.ac.nz> <9CE05D69-FC37-4C97-9D8D-D46B2DF6DE16@gmx.de> <2321be3b-957f-2d1f-c335-119c8e76efe5@auckland.ac.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink "beam spread" X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 07:33:18 -0000 On Wed, 31 Aug 2022, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote: > This combines with the uncomfortable truth > that an RF "beam" from a satellite isn't as selective as a laser beam, > so the options for frequency re-use from orbit aren't anywhere near as > good as from a mobile base station across the road: Any beam pointed at > you can be heard for many miles around and therefore no other user can > re-use that frequency (with the same burst slot etc.). not quite, you are forgetting that the antennas on the ground are also steerable arrays and so they can focus their 'receiving beam' at different satellites. This is less efficient than a transmitting beam as the satellites you aren't 'pointed' at will increase your noise floor, but it does allow the same frequency to be used for multiple satellites into the same area at the same time. David Lang