From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tr21g11a.aset.psu.edu (tr21g11a.aset.psu.edu [128.118.146.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3069D3CB37 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:37:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.32.85.127] ([192.112.253.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by tr21g11a.aset.psu.edu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 27UCbQ3Q007787 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:37:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=psu.edu; s=authsmtp_2020; t=1661863047; bh=lMKt2+8GijjV1Tc7M6WDK8mKNrNA2BWF/7LbkGJHkMw=; h=Date:Reply-To:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=N+c3p8aNE2NaH4x11Dcv/JBeY6b0JnPEOA95WmItvGfcafMLBeQH7RKm1TTLM3ASu Zr6ibPWDX/AiEesDYTZY977z0QAtTHHEwNUGV80YlK9nOqbR4DDKx0lBxKrOVI7l/L e4ke77SLIc+on/aCgrcb566FYKyB7OnyTv+pSW1yc5FM1vHKajnjNeWEb/L5bCaajT HnjyVEgDLJRPGy9YoGzOk7IUjiICsj0Hmak4ypGHXJDlgYxYlhrlWKRa2Rzt1NiVT/ HiTEi6vf5LVhcMuy2RrGDJ9aBWup2VFCF2Q5n43Qd9JekQhufJ4hw9vi9g1To3grWm nrdWs8eAR7Yeg== Message-ID: <8cb25e08-0b6b-d633-0fdc-b96a7a69599f@thexlab.org> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:37:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.11.0 Reply-To: sascha@thexlab.org Content-Language: en-US To: Dave Taht , Dave Taht via Starlink References: From: Sascha Meinrath In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (tr21g11a.aset.psu.edu [146.186.157.26]); Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:37:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 18:39:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [Starlink] gorgeous work on LEO beam spreading X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 12:37:33 -0000 I'd be curious how accurate these simulations are -- even within something as simple as LAN Wi-Fi, the "simulations" often are wildly/hyperbolically over-stated. I could imagine that even a few over-rosy assumptions would exponentially metastasize optimism within the satellite context. --Sascha On 8/30/22 07:52, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: > mike is doing some great visualizations here: > > https://twitter.com/mikepuchol/status/1564544963857326081