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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] a bit more starship news X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 May 2023 22:32:58 -0000 I'd add that with what is probably a couple of million subscribers=20 worldwide by now at US$100/month and growing fast, it gives you a fair=20 idea as to how much you can accomplish with $200 million or so a month=20 at your disposal. I remember O3b putting its initial constellation into=20 orbit at around $1.2 billion - half a year's worth of Starlink income at=20 most - but a multi-year endeavour. You can blow up a lot of launch pads=20 and rockets for that, especially if you build them cheap. On 2/05/2023 9:09 am, David Lang via Starlink wrote: > On Mon, 1 May 2023, David P. Reed via Starlink wrote: > >>> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 14:48:51 -0700 (PDT) >> >>> From: David Lang >> ... >>> the V2 mini satllites do not have the same capability as the full V2=20 >>> satellites, >>> they are cut down in capacity as well as in size to fit them on a=20 >>> Falcon 9. >>> >>> I would not be surprised to see v2 satellites launched on Starship=20 >>> later this >>> year. >>> >>> Gwen Shotwell said late last year that they had a quarter of=20 >>> Starlink having >>> positive cash flow, and that it's expected to be profitable in 2023 >> >> >> "Quarter of Starlink having positive cash flow" means what exactly?=20 >> I.'ve never heard a quarter of a corporation having positive cash=20 >> flow as any kind of business metric. > > that it earns more money than it spent in that 3 month period, and=20 > expected to do the same in 2023. > > SpaceX is private (so it doesn't have to impress the Wall Street=20 > clueless folks), it deosn't get 'cost plus' contracts. There is far=20 > less incentive to do creative accounting than if either of these were=20 > true. > > David Lang > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --=20 **************************************************************** Dr. Ulrich Speidel School of Computer Science Room 303S.594 (City Campus) The University of Auckland u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~ulrich/ ****************************************************************