From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (unknown [66.167.227.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50A703B29E for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2022 03:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dlang-mobile (unknown [10.2.2.69]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DCA13C12D; Thu, 14 Jul 2022 00:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 00:00:48 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang To: Larry Press cc: "Gary E. Miller" , David Lang , Dave Taht via Starlink In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <92n4s129-6r15-7q75-7293-qpo73q298srn@ynat.uz> References: <20220713173602.0582c9b3@spidey.rellim.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink at sea X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 07:00:49 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jul 2022, Larry Press wrote: > <$50k/month (for all their boats) > > Do they have ten ships? I know of 7 off the top of my head, the three drone ships, the multi-purpose recovery ships bob and doug, they got a couple more recently(named for females, don't remember the names reliably), all those recovery ships on the east coast, so they probably have one or two on the west coast, and I don't think that includes the dragon recovery craft. > >$150k/month with much better service > > Is that for uncapped service from a GEO? What speeds do they get for that? Do GEO folks like Hughes offer SLAs to business customers? that was for 25G of bandwidth from the post I saw mentioned, they didn't mention the speed (but they did show the difference in video quality from the barges between the old and new) David Lang > Does SES offer marine connectivity? > > Russian oligarchs will be early customers. > > Larry Press > > ________________________________ > From: Starlink on behalf of David Lang via Starlink > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:40 PM > To: Gary E. Miller > Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink > Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink at sea > > it all depends on what you are comparing it to. This isn't designed for a 30 ft > boat, but rather for commercial operations. SpaceX had talked about how this > replaces the earlier satellite services they have had on their boats that were > unreliable and cost >$150k/month with much better service listing for > <$50k/month (for all their boats) > > This is designed to be an all-weather allways-on service, most boaters could > just use a standard starlink RV setup and put it out when they need it (taking > it down when the weather is poor) > > David Lang > > On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, Gary E. Miller via Starlink wrote: > >> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 17:36:02 -0700 >> From: Gary E. Miller via Starlink >> Reply-To: Gary E. Miller >> To: Dave Taht via Starlink >> Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink at sea >> >> Yo Dave! >> >> On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 17:20:43 -0700 >> Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: >> >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2022/06/28/i-tried-elon-musks-starlink-internet-royal-caribbean-cruise-ship__;!!P7nkOOY!rxlTbVxEkw-MFoqu8DRa85IzMzIO1zBngo2MWxU3hZC2uf--DSi39Jg1_QDzFZyl3ShxZFNhM0oEQFMaJMhpU32Mkw$ >> >> >> Did you notice the eye popping cost? >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.starlink.com/maritime__;!!P7nkOOY!rxlTbVxEkw-MFoqu8DRa85IzMzIO1zBngo2MWxU3hZC2uf--DSi39Jg1_QDzFZyl3ShxZFNhM0oEQFMaJMgLmSbzsw$ >> >> "High-speed, low-latency internet with up to 350 Mbps download while at >> sea. $5,000/mo with a one-time hardware cost of $10,000 for two high >> performance terminals." >> >> I know a bunch of yacthies that have been waiting for this, but are >> now >> disappointed. >> >> RGDS >> GARY >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 >> gem@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 >> >> Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? >> "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin >> >