From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE91E3B29E for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B3C3898C; Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:54:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id GYPybcl7OPZO; Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:54:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329E03898B; Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:54:15 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sandelman.ca; s=mail; t=1680980055; bh=Gf0cWso+l03qhqACYrg+vAdQ203Mmw0RwySzCMjuDSQ=; h=From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=lhWqIbKCJCJ0o5RkV2IH0InbEPzcRjp2ilIsv3zKfr4zGtFZ4VwSeHJI5ujoo9ouN pbaPiNP8QHFIljITpA5XUna43tAZI6RbodJ6E//higl+GmnjeWp5dYjmP9cOZXseNj WeU7Dn8SkzAWfph6/I0wqMFJgenRelhk3TZSw2F3La3zTRLjGh0kAFKR71T6p9Xkxt FCGDq1jaM3YCd4ob100aZC0IjJ0/u7+pZ1+Ku8pqtFUz0ep5eQ0PbyTZDCOKHLApVx 82NTyhcGtZfRStx1CT+ABKy/IiYGQsHvfwZWq0tzI4YKry+9PgvuIzy2M7gU23MteH lHX6/C5hhX6kw== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB861668; Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:37:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: David Lang cc: Ulrich Speidel , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net, George Michaelson In-Reply-To: <145rq1sp-80n0-5q4n-sn82-364rn1n782s4@ynat.uz> References: <41ecacc1-9a34-8853-fbfe-f0e6add5e330@auckland.ac.nz> <145rq1sp-80n0-5q4n-sn82-364rn1n782s4@ynat.uz> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 27.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2023 14:37:26 -0400 Message-ID: <9305.1680979046@localhost> Subject: Re: [Starlink] apnic piece on starlink X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2023 18:37:28 -0000 David Lang via Starlink wrote: > Google shuttered project Loon (balloons to do this rather than UAVs) in > the last year or two I heard that too, but also that some external entity then put up some money and partnered to start it up again.