I like the simplicity of just H2O or LN2. 

Ok for steel plate, we need to think about 

And whether H2O or LN2, 
I assume either liquid is completely vaporized.

This solution is approaching visualizing the rocket’s engine blasting into the cooling system jet “exhaust” with neutralized gas coming out of the two opposing jets. In many sense, two equal and opposite forces. That is the implication of neutralization.


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On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:10 AM, Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 1:41 PM Rodney W. Grimes
<starlink@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote:

As always I enjoy the flood of information we get on this list!

still, so far, my research on a nitrogen deluge system (instead of
water) has come up empty for me, except as a fire suppressant. So it?s
either crazy or brilliant. Or both! I really liked the idea of
something cooler that was a natural byproduct of the LOX process...

I dont think cooler does much, isnt it the "energy of vaporization"
that is actually doing all the "work" in this type of system?

H2O is 40.7 kJ/mol and LN2 is 5.6 kJ/mol so you would
need ~7 times as much LN2 to do the same work.

Now that! was the kind of numbers I was looking for!

Still, water has to come from somewhere, and be stored. I will keep
thinking about it. I like that they seem to think that a water cooled
steel plate will suffice.

And the reason N2 is used as a fire suppressant is again not
because of temperature, but because it displaces the O2 and
suffocates the fire.  N2 is also easier on our ozone layer
than the prior used Halon.  Finally, this is usually
compressed N2 gas, not LN2.

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