From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ed1-x532.google.com (mail-ed1-x532.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::532]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E360E3CB4E for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 20:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ed1-x532.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-53e08e439c7so3706376a12.0 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 17:33:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1700271231; x=1700876031; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=mime-version:subject:references:in-reply-to:message-id:cc:to:from :date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=zE3qgjhcGExC64/RsEYggQPEbrNLMhIyX7j0yUOIW8w=; b=B3ADqwF1gx7OM4MZng//6fXv1ojszEJb+BzgTEC8AUPE4rW5hTvuCKIbaK0tDOgYof IBuuFTks3DX4ylGqO5/sJcSwXwK9VQ2FxP8AYYPrTr1l3GJGPzQH8Id/qb/q5ALd+jSK zQEaTfENyUhJEVTCkKs+Go8VF71aSCkItXqug6Fjezqce6Yy5HTpsMVL6nOuTwNrqqaK fkXNLBEFUWAQvjvi71mHz5WJyuVK/bO2mXyNy5jSaZrspL3KtLbLjZ0K/CL9Wkq3DCCq FZnoDmY5MRb519aof8F1NbwZgkMPTmwo1fwAUQqsv1br3M+wlDmJIcnFUZ4A2pHojbbG l2KQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1700271231; x=1700876031; h=mime-version:subject:references:in-reply-to:message-id:cc:to:from :date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=zE3qgjhcGExC64/RsEYggQPEbrNLMhIyX7j0yUOIW8w=; b=RZ98L5u+I2FbfXrHJ4mQhlfX2v62iuO4I0WKHrPED03JSm7KH1KtOOthdORodP6MaD VkJJ4tRgOoy4JlpUSDuE8zD5e8FrWUv36CuihVRgHyNQEj7C0ltj/V4sm5/l0AKO6TGH puXfx7kkSDYUKx8vthajHvwDmFPE/BKil4rHzfwVNbzChXiViQ2qDA+a6OzVd0144yHm mkjiNq21Nq/3TD2fU/zKm417m3loCdpp3/B9dYnZZjI8bQmFZ3LbX0RYZOwSIpEPkL2U gKzL6Grm2VJE2mCOL4z/YCU+/8CWK7fn3qNyhxg7ZO3LDEhoeGM+wpli7uIWwmAB+dqx NhIg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwoSm6/XZB2WSVRYCl80h0kN+9/Q11ORcno0aP0pFoCaTtQE8IQ qilp8+p07WPrxAz101TNENN+VMKtC/KT6A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHmPM7lKhdd5ol5hqgtZT1UZ/gOlMLZITEsBVWzFX6rhH1FegvQ2tRE0jGN8R4YFWaivicq0A== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:aecf:b0:9c7:5c46:3987 with SMTP id me15-20020a170906aecf00b009c75c463987mr641835ejb.63.1700271231154; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 17:33:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([105.113.40.123]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bq5-20020a170906d0c500b009e60387c630sm1346940ejb.220.2023.11.17.17.33.49 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 17 Nov 2023 17:33:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 02:33:45 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: Inemesit Affia To: Oleg Kutkov Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Message-ID: <97d250c4-1908-47f7-979e-08920b8677d9@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <606c9460-2c6f-4c71-8eab-e8412e02c30c@olegkutkov.me> References: <1695n28n-o7r5-nn4r-3pr3-o1404043qqpp@ynat.uz> <606c9460-2c6f-4c71-8eab-e8412e02c30c@olegkutkov.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4_138622013.1700271226007" X-Correlation-ID: <97d250c4-1908-47f7-979e-08920b8677d9@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Starlink] SpaceX Unveils Sleeker, More Resilient Starlink Terminal for the Connected Explorer X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 01:33:53 -0000 ------=_Part_4_138622013.1700271226007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oleg, do you consider this a better product for your use case? Nov 18, 2023 2:30:00 AM Oleg Kutkov via Starlink : > This has been so common here in Ukraine for almost a year: > https://twitter.com/olegkutkov/status/1725529469828452577 >=20 > No known issues. >=20 > On 11/18/23 03:25, David Lang via Starlink wrote: >> There are also a lot of videos out of people doing flat mounts and disab= ling the motors on their dishies as a validation of the fixed dish approach= . >>=20 >> David Lang >>=20 >> On Sat, 18 Nov 2023, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote: >>=20 >>> It's not surprising that they would do away with the motors. Satellite = density has now increased in most places to a level where there is sufficie= nt capacity in sight no matter which way Dishy points. At least where we ar= e at 37S, you can try this out at home even with the older ones - power up,= let Dishy orientate itself, and then rotate it away from its self-adjusted= direction. It's not going to re-orientate. That said, pointing Dishy at wh= ere you'd expect most capacity to sit would still give you better performan= ce. >>>=20 >>> On 18/11/2023 11:33 am, Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink wrote: >>>> SpaceX today added a new Starlink terminal to its family of products. = The news was shared on X earlier by Tesla investor, Sa= wyer Merritt. >>>>=20 >>>> Compared to its predecessor, the Standard Actuated terminal =E2=80=94 = which was also designed for everyday uses like gaming, video calls, and str= eaming =E2=80=94 the new device features a slimmer, more portable design, higher waterproof and wind= resistance rating as well as an increased field of view, and no motor. >>>>=20 >>>> In addition to the terminal, kickstand, and cables, the kit includes a= Gen 3 router with Wi-Fi 6 support. Based on the quick start guide , also shared by Merr= itt, the set-up process looks pretty easy." [https://ts2.space/en/spacex-un= veils-sleeker-more-resilient-starlink-terminal-for-the-connected-explorer/#= gsc.tab=3D0 ] >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Starlink mailing list >>>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >>>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >=20 > --=20 > Best regards, > Oleg Kutkov >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink ------=_Part_4_138622013.1700271226007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oleg, do you c= onsider this a better product for your use case?

Nov 18, 2023 2:30:00 AM Oleg Kutkov via Starlink <starlink@lists.= bufferbloat.net>:

This has been so common here in Ukraine for almost a year:=20
https://twitter.com/olegkutkov/status/1725529469828452577=20

No known issues.=20

On 11/18/23 03:25, David Lang via Starlink wrote:=20
There are also a lot of videos out of people doing flat mounts and di= sabling the motors on their dishies as a validation of the fixed dish appro= ach.=20

David Lang=20

On Sat, 18 Nov 2023, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote:=20

It's not surprising that they would do away with the motors. Satelli= te density has now increased in most places to a level where there is suffi= cient capacity in sight no matter which way Dishy points. At least where we= are at 37S, you can try this out at home even with the older ones - power = up, let Dishy orientate itself, and then rotate it away from its self-adjus= ted direction. It's not going to re-orientate. That said, pointing Dishy at= where you'd expect most capacity to sit would still give you better perfor= mance.=20

On 18/11/2023 11:33 am, Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink wrote:=20
SpaceX today added a new Starlink terminal to its family of product= s. The news <https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/172556955149075255= 6?t=3D9SMc2IybrB3U8ZXS-6ehOA&s=3D19>was shared on X earlier by Tesla= investor, Sawyer Merritt.=20

Compared to its predecessor, the Standard Actuated terminal =E2=80= =94 which was also designed for everyday uses like gaming, video calls, and= streaming =E2=80=94 the new device features <https://www.starlink.com/s= pecifications?spec=3D4>a slimmer, more portable design, higher waterproo= f and wind resistance rating as well as an increased field of view, and no = motor.=20

In addition to the terminal, kickstand, and cables, the kit includ= es a Gen 3 router with Wi-Fi 6 support. Based on the quick start guide <= https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1725570377198268653>, also shar= ed by Merritt, the set-up process looks pretty easy." [https://ts2.space/en= /spacex-unveils-sleeker-more-resilient-starlink-terminal-for-the-connected-= explorer/#gsc.tab=3D0 <https://ts2.space/en/spacex-unveils-sleeker-more-= resilient-starlink-terminal-for-the-connected-explorer/#gsc.tab=3D0>]=20


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