From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04A863B2A4 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2024 11:01:35 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1725462094; x=1726066894; i=moeller0@gmx.de; bh=0ljOjU7dpV1NG2hLSiNSws+Btbfc/2cF2RIPL4/uLbY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From: In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id: References:To:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from: message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject:to; b=uVM9TmViPE1+LeNr+q6VJu50JyGTrsbvao3/qliPbUIWIdL3wSOnfRmpiEgEGVu2 W6cAK9duIjL3MK8S5UdxoeSj83yjdYe9N2CiVwPYQ+T+8zpKyjJVKpO2CDOsgjlqf 2e+fNU6iNatlXu10iIMWEdGOzx8rFpwZjmxbOUAAPAtwkNliwYWYLAeBi9Fal/rdO J7ATgM2qsrwKPzrshVWTGNjyt26VuIq4SD/+icbaTtXOLctYvRkpfFJbl2hS3SilX 5AcYlJg8+5p218TB5gVlr1VwL2gV4NUt4pdnRkoIWF0Lmu2r/S7U6sPI7+QukBijg j9GGEcTAhrvodXxhag== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from smtpclient.apple ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M9Wys-1siXb00cUu-00GrUK; Wed, 04 Sep 2024 17:01:34 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3776.700.51\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 17:01:23 +0200 Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9CAB5D0B-1E8F-4EB9-82E6-A807B011E9E0@gmx.de> References: To: =?utf-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3776.700.51) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:lWJKXFrMl3ylLoZaTSPjCdDxRWj5Ndi6+iGyvhl1tPPs7uPBwST NYizZhbfv+MDRUBJCXgNfBvXqQ7mgIUXB/kgsIOhAbmMMu7g3ApLITiGa6/D5N3sR+7NLFK NGYcaoiG1gvWlFyynBXDQ/VEvlertnDI4OHXXwU6JaFSYJjeDR04VYd0C/1oghLr3N20M/k pWODZgGJr+FJwQ4cgLlFg== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:h+yYdERDBXI=;NLk1JLvrTsPNiSoSTajzlFtmLUP peVyhFcWAms8opy2cIXMrzqkRuwvg9MiZMcUsrfSyIC6l5PWPSDuICDxo3qrhs8e+BfEojWN0 Z7D7Ka2Dt4d73PdqZ8HZyNVLmjK9pKMwjDfhRbbJ/4JDMVKgPHx5GnqqD3HmhyKxLEG0CVdoy 41Il4l6J4CLBzHGms6uXLackIAa0mMuVEACmgmo65QHwKpGEob1bLPYVBQV3oDsJgkrZiAr47 /rva6Zy6J/u1fkm9IIn7uMdj2cywI5JbvF4K7n9kdYPSNGekZahe+FHX3vuGxud/d+I1LOl2Y uiX0SfFKP2g40cHNqwM9ecd+rh5iAVc+YqGKonKMB4peKkEsZX9TeGMmC/4o61RnNwmNUFQex Z9IRPhBYBfqXiw9bAQkAUpXFhWSsspETX6v9MNMAxpmxy4AL5gMmfXsIIHKhjzd3MrqupYcZt B3YL2yUvEAUHH0g4Zs0tlDK+CcNwK75vm8rPkxmut5kW4Oa9nzYPxcaafIAXsX1jQOdK+o4cR UPm+Hbg9KdjNiQCFlAVSsde+gWM4w+Vspk+yiKpZWs4V5/7E5YVzFCtmQE0zVng0oSR4Vgn56 b14pziess0hR73TtOLj/Alo5GjXNacdNEN/vhC4jjM/zlZdnXwEjv6uu9NlbqUKXLk0sHR7n4 Y640sMkdacmMwGWsveXrQT5ccCCpmSX6NiS29oLEBZnzYLVbBldobb7Tx2Sd7C5ouW06Le0HI jn6cVwX6iOwKzvvbDVSVjqC/5vK+x4jr8OE1rbfpGnmBU822rwFRyjAYKtC86MbMqpOpT4MZP QCEwJW3pf72xIQ3ZhgSLGS7DXerUEbXH/DXcX9R0B4KbU= Subject: Re: [Starlink] lumen orbit X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2024 15:01:36 -0000 Mmmh, the white paper states only this sketch: Orbital data centers can leverage lower cooling costs using passive = radiative cooling in space to directly achieve low coolant temperatures. = Perhaps most importantly, they can be scaled almost indefinitely without = the physical or permitting constraints faced on Earth, using modularity = to deploy them rapidly. All of this will have a net benefit on the = environment - a recent study by the European Commission concluded that = orbital data centers will significantly reduce greenhouse gas emissions = from grid electricity and eliminate fresh water usage for cooling.3 No shit, Sherlock for the last sentence... I wonder what kind of stawman = design they envision for fresh water cooling in space ;)=20 > On 4. Sep 2024, at 16:48, Dave Taht via Starlink = wrote: >=20 > They plan to build a 5GW 4k solar square for data centers in orbit, = launched on starship: >=20 > https://www.lumenorbit.com/ >=20 > How are they going to cool this thing? >=20 > --=20 > Artists/Musician Campout Aug 9-11 > https://www.eventbrite.com/e/healing-arts-event-tickets-928910826287 > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink