From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.taht.net (mail.taht.net [IPv6:2a01:7e00:e000:2d4:f00f:f00f:b33b:b33b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40B833B2A4 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2021 14:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (137.sub-174-194-131.myvzw.com [174.194.131.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.taht.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6FD6C22C07; Sun, 27 Jun 2021 18:45:21 +0000 (UTC) From: Dave Taht Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_44C82218-C81B-4736-A120-995B733CC838" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.80.0.2.43\)) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 11:45:19 -0700 Cc: lk@cs.ucla.edu To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.80.0.2.43) Subject: [Starlink] when hackers stay up late and queueing theory 101 X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 18:45:23 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_44C82218-C81B-4736-A120-995B733CC838 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 One of my most inspirational books over the years the bufferbloat effort = has run was =E2=80=9Cwhere wizards stay up late=E2=80=9D https://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674 (several people featured in that book are on this mailing list) My hero, in the book, was len kleinrock. His gang of grad students at = UCLA took great delight in finding new ways to break and improve on the = early arpanet. Their bottom up efforts drove the (otherwise great) engineers driving = the code and top down design at BBN absolutely insane, but we got a lot = out of the end result. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Kleinrock Len Kleinrock=E2=80=99s work on queue theory is remarkably accessible to = even a college sophomore in business... but seems to be sadly mostly out = of print at the moment. = https://www.amazon.com/s?k=3DQueueing+Systems+Volume+1%3A+Theory+by+Leonar= d&i=3Dstripbooks&ref=3Dnb_sb_noss THANKFULLY archive.org has been making his books available here for = quite some time:=20 https://archive.org/details/queueingsystems01klei https://archive.org/details/queueingsystems02klei/ Queue theory notation is quite weird and hard to grok. However the more = CS oriented Volume 2 is the book I relied upon heavily while developing = enhancements to fq_codel and its successors. I can send along my tattered dog-eared copy to whoever might be willing = to read it. If you agree to send it back! --Apple-Mail=_44C82218-C81B-4736-A120-995B733CC838 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 One = of my most inspirational books over the years the bufferbloat effort has = run was =E2=80=9Cwhere wizards stay up late=E2=80=9D

https://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674=

(several = people featured in that book are on this mailing list)

My hero, in the book, = was len kleinrock. His gang of grad students at UCLA took great delight = in finding new ways to break and improve on the early arpanet.

Their bottom up efforts = drove the (otherwise great) engineers driving the code and top down = design at BBN absolutely insane, but we got a lot out of the end = result.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Kleinrock

Len Kleinrock=E2=80=99s = work on queue theory is remarkably accessible to even a college = sophomore in business... but seems to be sadly mostly out of print at = the moment.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=3DQueueing+Systems+Volume+1%3A+Theor= y+by+Leonard&i=3Dstripbooks&ref=3Dnb_sb_noss

THANKFULLY archive.org has been making = his books available here for quite some time: 

https://archive.org/details/queueingsystems01klei

https://archive.org/details/queueingsystems02klei/

Queue theory notation = is quite weird and hard to grok. However the more CS oriented Volume 2 = is the book I relied upon heavily while developing enhancements to = fq_codel and its successors.

I can send along my tattered dog-eared = copy to whoever might be willing to read it. If you agree to send it = back!






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