From: Stuart Cheshire <cheshire@apple.com>
To: "Rich Brown" <richb.hanover@gmail.com>,
"Dave Täht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
Colin_Higbie <CHigbie1@higbie.name>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 10:51:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <A3CE08FF-6DEA-4071-B568-8BCF7369E3D0@apple.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF-ggVMxByb-y_i1kHJsVkoUUUBpVZWAoEohpf0As9Esgpjizg@mail.gmail.com>
On Jun 4, 2024, at 16:03, Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah... I didn't write that as carefully as I could have. I was switching between "user voice" (who'll say 'speed') and "expert" voice (I know the difference). Check it now: https://randomneuronsfiring.com/all-the-reasons-that-bufferbloat-isnt-a-problem/
Thanks for doing that.
How about also changing “new faster ISP plan” to “new bigger ISP plan”? I know that may sound like a slightly weird phrase, but getting people’s attention by surprising them a little can be beneficial. If it looks weird to them and that makes them pause and think, then that’s good.
If the hypothetical ISP imagined here were actually willing to offer a plan that truly provided consistently *faster* connectivity instead of just more of the same, we’d be very happy. The truth today is that most IPs offer *bigger*, not *better*. They are selling quantity, not quality.
(I am intentionally not lumping *all* ISPs into the same bucket here. Some, like Comcast, are actually making big efforts to improve quality as well as quantity. Comcast dramatically reduced the working latency of my cable modem during the work-from-home pandemic, and they continue to work on improving that even more. I want to be sure to give credit where it is deserved.)
Stuart Cheshire
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2024-04-30 18:05 ` [Starlink] It’s the Latency, FCC Colin_Higbie
2024-04-30 19:04 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 0:36 ` David Lang
2024-05-01 1:30 ` [Starlink] Itʼs " Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 1:52 ` Jim Forster
2024-05-01 3:59 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 4:12 ` David Lang
2024-05-01 10:15 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-01 18:51 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 19:18 ` David Lang
2024-05-01 21:11 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-01 22:10 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 21:12 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 21:27 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-05-01 22:19 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-06 11:25 ` [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem Rich Brown
2024-05-06 12:11 ` Dave Collier-Brown
2024-05-07 0:43 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 12:05 ` Dave Collier-Brown
[not found] ` <CAJUtOOhH3oPDCyo=mk=kwzm5DiFp7OZPiFu+0MzajTQqps==_g@mail.gmail.com>
2024-05-06 19:47 ` Rich Brown
2024-05-07 0:38 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 10:50 ` Rich Brown
2024-05-08 1:48 ` Dave Taht
2024-05-08 7:58 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-08 8:01 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-08 18:29 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-04 18:19 ` Stuart Cheshire
2024-06-04 20:06 ` Sauli Kiviranta
2024-06-04 20:58 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-05 11:36 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 13:08 ` Aidan Van Dyk
2024-06-05 13:28 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 13:40 ` Gert Doering
2024-06-05 13:43 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 14:16 ` David Lang
2024-06-05 15:10 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-05 16:21 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 19:17 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-04 23:03 ` Rich Brown
2024-06-04 23:36 ` [Starlink] Consumer Reportes (was: The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem) David Collier-Brown
2024-06-06 17:51 ` Stuart Cheshire [this message]
2024-06-07 2:28 ` [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem Dave Taht
2024-06-07 5:36 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-07 7:51 ` Gert Doering
2024-05-02 19:17 ` [Starlink] Itʼs the Latency, FCC Michael Richardson
2024-05-02 9:09 ` [Starlink] It’s " Alexandre Petrescu
2024-05-02 9:28 ` Ulrich Speidel
2024-04-30 20:05 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-05-02 9:21 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-05-07 12:13 [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem David Fernández
2024-05-07 12:46 ` Dave Collier-Brown
2024-05-07 19:09 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 19:11 ` Dave Taht
2024-05-07 19:14 ` Jeremy Austin
2024-05-07 19:46 ` Dave Taht
2024-05-07 20:03 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 20:05 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-07 20:25 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-08 9:31 David Fernández
2024-06-05 14:46 David Fernández
2024-06-05 14:57 ` Vint Cerf
2024-06-06 17:12 ` Michael Richardson
2024-06-06 10:18 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-06 10:37 ` Aidan Van Dyk
2024-06-06 10:33 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 15:16 David Fernández
2024-06-05 15:21 ` Bless, Roland (TM)
2024-06-05 15:32 ` David Fernández
2024-06-05 16:24 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-06 23:10 ` Michael Richardson
2024-06-07 1:39 ` David Lang
2024-06-07 6:20 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-07 17:41 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-07 17:51 ` David Lang
2024-06-07 20:09 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-08 1:53 ` David Lang
2024-06-05 16:23 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-06 7:07 ` David Fernández
2024-06-06 7:41 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-07 7:36 David Fernández
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