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[184.162.66.108]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 6a1803df08f44-6eade24e94csm60575416d6.60.2025.03.17.16.35.19 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 17 Mar 2025 16:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.400.131.1.6\)) From: Marc Blanchet In-Reply-To: <6nn799r0-q896-4osn-23no-733oorno0p55@ynat.uz> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 19:35:08 -0400 Cc: Hesham ElBakoury , Starlink , 5grm-satellite@ieee.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <6nn799r0-q896-4osn-23no-733oorno0p55@ynat.uz> To: David Lang X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.400.131.1.6) Subject: Re: [Starlink] Alphabet spins off Starlink competitor Taara X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 23:35:21 -0000 > On Mar 17, 2025, at 18:50, David Lang via Starlink = wrote: >=20 > Hesham ElBakoury wrote: >=20 >> = https://www.theverge.com/news/631049/alphabet-spins-off-starlink-competito= r-taara?mc_cid=3D1a1e15a2db&mc_eid=3D105d343de1 >=20 > Interesting, a laser in a professionally installed/aligned tower is = going to be able to have a higher bandwidth than the starlink dishy. >=20 > but the claim that it will be far cheaper than Starlink?? that tower = and a ground station that tracks the satellites in real time is going to = be FAR more expensive than a dishy. Since it's going to be in motion at = all times, it's got mechanical parts to wear out, and physically = re-aiming a laser between connections (on both ends) is going to be a = lot slower than electronic aiming of a phased array antenna. Either I don't understand the article or your comment. But my = interpretation of the article is that it is "just" (ground) lasers for = trunk links between (ground) towers. No satellite involved. It is a = replacement of either fibre or radio between (cell) towers.=20 Marc. >=20 > As a community gateway where a lot of people share a single satellite = connection, it could work, but even there I question if it would be = cheaper. >=20 > There's also the question of the cost of satellites. Are they willing = to take the Starlink approach of cheap satellites? or are they still = thinking 'industry standard' where each satellite is far bigger, = heavier, and more expensive? >=20 > David Lang >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink