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From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>,
	Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	"Livingood, Jason" <jason_livingood@comcast.com>,
	Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
Cc: "starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] FCC Upholds Denial of Starlink's RDOF Application
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2023 19:06:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <A5AFA222-B16C-4A99-8409-55ACED362E8C@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d070ea89-f2a3-4867-96b8-569d7449ed98@gmail.com>

Hi Alexandre,

On 17 December 2023 18:32:39 CET, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>Le 15/12/2023 à 16:46, Livingood, Jason a écrit :
>[...]
>> The notion that a home user needs 25G or more these days is ridiculous. ;-)
>:-) yes and no.
>If one had a 25 gbit/s line arriving at home one might want to try multiple TV 3D 8K viewers 

        [SM] To be useful this arguably requires multiple pairs of eyeballs though and the respektive sreens/vr goggles. And the stomach to actually tolerate 3D...

and recordings, while ongoing DSD4096 5.1 audio streamings (even 11.1).
>Besides, 25gbit/s might feature such a low latency 

        [SM] Serialisation delay, the one delay that mostly scales inversely to access rate tends to be in the noise well below 25Gbps. See e.g. here https://wiki.geant.org/display/public/EK/SerializationDelay serialisation delay of a single 1500 Byte packet at 1 Gbps sits at 12 μs that is a queue of ~80 of these has an aggregate serialization delay of ~1ms. I think it is safe to say that well below 25Gbps serialization delay stops becoming dominant... 

that many existing apps (telemedecine including) might work much better.

        [SM] I severely daubt that telemedicine is going to notice much difference once we are above the required bitrate for the video codec :)
Side note: I might be an unfrozen/rethawed caveman, but I consider telemedicine not a 'killer' app (sorry, bad terminology) for large capacity access links.

Regards
        Sebastian

>Alex
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-17 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-13 21:25 [Starlink] FCC Upholds Denial of Starlink’s " Frantisek Borsik
     [not found] ` <A8DC9114A92F47D5AAE1D332B5E5007D@SRA6>
2023-12-13 22:38   ` [Starlink] FCC Upholds Denial of Starlink's " Frantisek Borsik
2023-12-14  2:46     ` [Starlink] [NNagain] " Robert McMahon
2023-12-14  6:11       ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-12-14 17:48         ` David Bray, PhD
2023-12-14 18:47           ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-12-14 18:51           ` Nathan Simington
2023-12-14 19:44             ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-12-15 12:07             ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-15 12:37               ` Gert Doering
2023-12-15 12:43                 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-15 12:44                   ` Gert Doering
2023-12-15 12:46                     ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-12-15 13:24                       ` Gert Doering
2023-12-15 13:40                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-12-15 18:06                         ` David Lang
2023-12-15 18:51                           ` rjmcmahon
2023-12-15 19:13                             ` David Lang
2023-12-15 21:29                               ` rjmcmahon
2023-12-15 21:42                                 ` David Lang
2023-12-15 22:04                                   ` David Bray, PhD
2023-12-15 22:10                                     ` David Lang
2023-12-15 22:13                                       ` David Bray, PhD
2023-12-15 22:33                                         ` Kenline, Doug
2023-12-15 22:36                                         ` Dave Taht
2023-12-19 19:33                                         ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-15 22:05                                   ` rjmcmahon
2023-12-15 22:13                                     ` David Lang
2023-12-15 22:26                                   ` Dave Taht
2023-12-16  4:16                                     ` David Lang
2023-12-16 17:30                                       ` rjmcmahon
2023-12-16 18:48                                         ` Robert McMahon
2023-12-16 21:44                                           ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-12-16 22:28                                             ` Robert McMahon
2023-12-17  0:25                                               ` Dave Taht
2023-12-23 21:17                                                 ` J Pan
2023-12-18  8:25                                               ` David Lang
2023-12-15 15:46                     ` Livingood, Jason
2023-12-17 17:32                       ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-17 18:06                         ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2023-12-16  8:15                     ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-15 13:06               ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-12-16  8:09                 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-16 11:14                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-12-17  1:54             ` [Starlink] other fcc services at sea Dave Taht
2023-12-16 13:03 [Starlink] [NNagain] FCC Upholds Denial of Starlink's RDOF Application David Fernández
2023-12-18  8:09 ` David Lang
2023-12-16 14:33 David Fernández

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