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Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2025 14:44:01 -0000 Hah, J beat me to this question! Also very interested in that exact = detail if you happened to collect it. > On Jun 6, 2025, at 07:36, J Pan via Starlink = wrote: >=20 > Hi Sauli: nice test. do you happen to have any info about your public > ip address while on the plane, so we can figure out its pop and pop > handover behaviors along the way? cheers. -j > -- > J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, = Web.UVic.CA/~pan >=20 > On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 6:03=E2=80=AFAM Sauli Kiviranta via Starlink > wrote: >>=20 >> Last weekend I was flying from Austria to Riga, and got opportunity = to test Starlink enabled in-flight WIFI now freely available from = AirBaltic. While flying over Poland, I did a remote control "fuse check" = test on a robotic camera in a Finnish mine 400m underground, some 1300km = away from the plane. >>=20 >> Scenario: I did remote operations test to control the camera in the = mine, with the control loop from XRTC client running through the plane = WIFI (along with the 150 other users!) to Starlink likely terminated in = Poland, then to our XRTC based RTSP relay server running on AWS in = Sweden, all the way to a Finnish mine 400m underground, where we have = the mine WIFI connected to a AXIS Q6135-LE PTZ camera that terminated = the XRTC acceleration for the TCP traffic. Then naturally the full = signal loop is returning back same path in reverse with the captured = live video to be shown on my laptop in the airplane (picture). >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Check the video below. What this means is that I could very well be = operating a mining machine, drone, or any kind of robotic platform from = anywhere, anytime, around the globe. Even if the target is full = autonomy, there will be many cases where partial autonomy is the path = in-between, like I was now controlling the camera in the mine. >>=20 >> Video: https://x.com/sksauli/status/1929281402354147463 >>=20 >> Pretty nice performance! Few hiccups in the beginning when opening = the connection, but after that it was quite smooth sailing... flying! >>=20 >> I do not think people fully comprehend what Starlink is enabling! >>=20 >> Best regards, >> Sauli >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink