Re: [Starlink] Starlink "Best Effort" offering

[Eugene Y Chang <eugene.chang@ieee.org>]

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Good point… that sure makes matching new capacity to new subscribers really hard.

Gene
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Eugene Chang
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eugene.chang@ieee.org
781-799-0233 (in Honolulu)



> On Sep 28, 2022, at 6:29 PM, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:
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> that strip of land is different every orbit, a given satellite doesn't pass over the same land each orbit.
> 
> David Lang
> 
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2022, Eugene Y Chang wrote:
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>> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 14:40:35 -1000
>> From: Eugene Y Chang <eugene.chang@ieee.org>
>> To: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
>> Cc: Eugene Chang <eugene.chang@ieee.org>, Dotzero <dotzero@gmail.com>,
>>    Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink "Best Effort" offering
>> Yes and no.
>> 
>> Yes they can beef up the constellation, one section at a time. (For a given launch, the are enhancing a particular orbit.)
>> 
>> Depending on your definition of “one area” when you say “not in any one area”.
>> Technically they would beef up an area in the shape of strips, where the strip is the ground under the orbit of the additional (new) satellites.
>> 
>> Sorry, when I say “add service to an area”, it implies adding coverage to strips of land, the land under the new satellite orbit.
>> 
>> https://satellitemap.space/?constellation=starlink <https://satellitemap.space/?constellation=starlink>
>> 
>> 
>> Gene
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>> Eugene Chang
>> IEEE Senior Life Member
>> eugene.chang@ieee.org
>> 781-799-0233 (in Honolulu)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2022, at 1:35 PM, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:
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>>> The Starlink satellites are in low orbit (<90 min), so you beef up the contellation overall, not in any one area.
>>> 
>>> David Lang
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 28 Sep 2022, Eugene Y Chang via Starlink wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 13:07:43 -1000
>>>> From: Eugene Y Chang via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
>>>> Reply-To: Eugene Y Chang <eugene.chang@ieee.org>
>>>> To: Dotzero <dotzero@gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink "Best Effort" offering
>>>> What is the definition and differences between regular and best effort service?
>>>> 
>>>> Creating two bookings queue, wait list and best effort subscribers, the best effort subscribers are more “real”. With that, treating best effort subscribers as a (more) "real customer" backlog, it would be a good way to prioritize where to expand the constellation (i.e. where to add capacity).
>>>> 
>>>> Gene
>>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>>> Eugene Chang
>>>> IEEE Senior Life Member
>>>> eugene.chang@ieee.org
>>>> 781-799-0233 (in Honolulu)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 28, 2022, at 9:53 AM, Dotzero via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been on the wait list for almost 10 months and just received an email that I can sign up for a "best efforts" offering. Seeing as they also indicated the estimated time for regular service is mid-2023, I decided to go with it (You don't lose your place on the wait list). You can also "pause" the best effort service so I don't really have anything to lose.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has anyone had experience with this offering? Any input appreciated. If it makes a difference, location is Central East Ohio.
>>>>> 
>>>>> According to https://www.starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1002-69942-69?regionCode=US <https://www.starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1002-69942-69?regionCode=US>, latency will be comparable to regular service, down will be 5-100mbs and up will be 1-10mps unless service is deprioritized due to congestion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 
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