From: Dave Taht <davet@teklibre.net>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: David Lang <david@lang.hm>, starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: [Starlink] routing capability in starlinks
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 00:13:26 -0700 [thread overview]
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since they are processing packets they must have some routing or packet switching capability per sat, esp given the ultimate laser based interconnect.
I am wondering how much routing table space they might have designed in?
going village to village on the same sat would save a ton of backhaul bandwidth and offer less latency for things like phone calls. The CGN (dang it) looks doomed to backhaul somewhere, but perhaps the ipv6 stuff?
I imagine they do it at the l2 protocol and program the next hop(s) on the ground, but we do live in an age where everything is centralized
(for those that don’t know, I’ve been working on distance-vector routing protocols for decades, most of my work on that front for the last decade has been focused on making the babel routing protocol scale better than bgp does for meshy links )
> On Jun 29, 2021, at 10:48 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 10:24 PM David Lang <david@lang.hm <mailto:david@lang.hm>> wrote:
>>
>> I think that was 69k simultanious users
>>
>> dishy production cost is currently down to ~$1k/unit (I've heard that it was
>> ~$3k/unit for the first ones)
>
> Keep hoping they will add good, nay, great!! queue management.
> Software costs nothing in qty.
>
>> But the long term upside if they can pull it off is a license to print money,
>> I've seen speculation that it's on the order of 30B/year when fully built
>
> I think that's kind of doable.
>
> It's too bad all those users are behind a CGN and cannot talk to each
> other, routing calls at least from one village to another would stay
> on the same sat.
>
>>
>> David Lang
>>
>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2021, Daniel AJ Sokolov wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:00:32 -0700
>>> From: Daniel AJ Sokolov <daniel@sokolov.eu.org>
>>> To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
>>> Subject: [Starlink] 69,000 Users
>>>
>>> Starlink currently has 69,000 User, according to what Elon Musk said
>>> today at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona.
>>>
>>> In a year, he wants to have 500,000 users.
>>>
>>> He expects having to invest 25 to 30 billion US-Dollars to fully build
>>> Starlink.
>>>
>>> Each Dishy costs Starlink about double the current purchase price.
>>> However, they want to reduce the production cost to "a few hundred
>>> dollars" - which is why they are working on their own factory in Texas.
>>>
>>> FYI
>>> Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-30 7:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-30 2:00 [Starlink] 69,000 Users Daniel AJ Sokolov
2021-06-30 5:24 ` David Lang
2021-06-30 5:48 ` Dave Taht
2021-06-30 7:13 ` Dave Taht [this message]
2021-06-30 14:43 ` [Starlink] routing capability in starlinks Michael Richardson
2021-06-30 23:56 ` Nick Buraglio
2021-06-30 7:23 ` [Starlink] 69,000 Users Mike Puchol
2021-06-30 7:30 ` David Lang
2021-06-30 7:43 ` Mike Puchol
2021-06-30 7:51 ` Dave Taht
2021-06-30 9:57 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2021-06-30 14:24 ` Dave Taht
2021-06-30 18:33 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2021-06-30 20:40 ` Dick Roy
2021-06-30 23:33 ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2021-07-01 0:00 ` David Lang
2021-07-01 0:03 ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2021-07-01 0:20 ` David Lang
2021-06-30 10:53 ` Jared Mauch
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