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boundary="_000_BYAPR03MB38633C850C22F1ACCB56DF64C2889BYAPR03MB3863namp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: csudh.edu X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: BYAPR03MB3863.namprd03.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 79bbd583-9e8b-426e-64cf-08da655c3c1a X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 14 Jul 2022 05:46:44.5637 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 1a66a727-7389-4727-a8cb-f249ac8e7ff8 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: z1YWUrBfpaSgi+BQSOVcZdYhtEfTEj7oQAwnq9zGAfzd/yV3b6jGxtIuzfaeuOYceFpNFNszFqAx20ZVlHciXw== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM6PR03MB5292 X-Proofpoint-GUID: Y9V07LjYEdoLS3HgmIh6ijVjSgzOrkp3 X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: Y9V07LjYEdoLS3HgmIh6ijVjSgzOrkp3 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.205,Aquarius:18.0.883,Hydra:6.0.517,FMLib:17.11.122.1 definitions=2022-07-14_04,2022-07-13_03,2022-06-22_01 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 adultscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 phishscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 spamscore=0 priorityscore=1501 suspectscore=0 impostorscore=0 bulkscore=0 mlxscore=0 clxscore=1011 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2206140000 definitions=main-2207140023 Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink at sea X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 05:46:49 -0000 --_000_BYAPR03MB38633C850C22F1ACCB56DF64C2889BYAPR03MB3863namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <$50k/month (for all their boats) Do they have ten ships? >$150k/month with much better service Is that for uncapped service from a GEO? What speeds do they get for that? = Do GEO folks like Hughes offer SLAs to business customers? Does SES offer marine connectivity? Russian oligarchs will be early customers. Larry Press ________________________________ From: Starlink on behalf of David = Lang via Starlink Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:40 PM To: Gary E. Miller Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink at sea it all depends on what you are comparing it to. This isn't designed for a 3= 0 ft boat, but rather for commercial operations. SpaceX had talked about how thi= s replaces the earlier satellite services they have had on their boats that w= ere unreliable and cost >$150k/month with much better service listing for <$50k/month (for all their boats) This is designed to be an all-weather allways-on service, most boaters coul= d just use a standard starlink RV setup and put it out when they need it (tak= ing it down when the weather is poor) David Lang On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, Gary E. Miller via Starlink wrote: > Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 17:36:02 -0700 > From: Gary E. Miller via Starlink > Reply-To: Gary E. Miller > To: Dave Taht via Starlink > Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink at sea > > Yo Dave! > > On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 17:20:43 -0700 > Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2022/06/2= 8/i-tried-elon-musks-starlink-internet-royal-caribbean-cruise-ship__;!!P7nk= OOY!rxlTbVxEkw-MFoqu8DRa85IzMzIO1zBngo2MWxU3hZC2uf--DSi39Jg1_QDzFZyl3ShxZFN= hM0oEQFMaJMhpU32Mkw$ > > > Did you notice the eye popping cost? > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.starlink.com/maritime__;!!P7nkOOY= !rxlTbVxEkw-MFoqu8DRa85IzMzIO1zBngo2MWxU3hZC2uf--DSi39Jg1_QDzFZyl3ShxZFNhM0= oEQFMaJMgLmSbzsw$ > > "High-speed, low-latency internet with up to 350 Mbps download while at > sea. $5,000/mo with a one-time hardware cost of $10,000 for two high > performance terminals." > > I know a bunch of yacthies that have been waiting for this, but are > now > disappointed. > > RGDS > GARY > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 > gem@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 > > Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? > "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin > --_000_BYAPR03MB38633C850C22F1ACCB56DF64C2889BYAPR03MB3863namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<$50k/month (for all their boats)

Do they have ten ships?

 >= ;$150k/month with much better service 

Is that for uncapped service from a GEO? What speeds do they get for that? Do GEO folks like Hu= ghes offer SLAs to business customers?

Does SES offer marine connectivity?

Russian oligarchs will be early customers.

Larry Press

From: Starlink <starlink= -bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> on behalf of David Lang via Starlink <= ;starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:40 PM
To: Gary E. Miller <gem@rellim.com>
Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink at sea
 
it all depends on what you are comparing it to. Th= is isn't designed for a 30 ft
boat, but rather for commercial operations. SpaceX had talked about how thi= s
replaces the earlier satellite services they have had on their boats that w= ere
unreliable and cost >$150k/month with much better service listing for <$50k/month (for all their boats)

This is designed to be an all-weather allways-on service, most boaters coul= d
just use a standard starlink RV setup and put it out when they need it (tak= ing
it down when the weather is poor)

David Lang

  On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, Gary E. Miller via Starlink wrote:

> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 17:36:02 -0700
> From: Gary E. Miller via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net&g= t;
> Reply-To: Gary E. Miller <gem@rellim.com>
> To: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink at sea
>
> Yo Dave!
>
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 17:20:43 -0700
> Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: >
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2022/06/28/i= -tried-elon-musks-starlink-internet-royal-caribbean-cruise-ship__;!!P7nkOOY= !rxlTbVxEkw-MFoqu8DRa85IzMzIO1zBngo2MWxU3hZC2uf--DSi39Jg1_QDzFZyl3ShxZFNhM0= oEQFMaJMhpU32Mkw$
>
>
> Did you notice the eye popping cost?
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.starlink.com/maritime__;!!P7nkOOY!r= xlTbVxEkw-MFoqu8DRa85IzMzIO1zBngo2MWxU3hZC2uf--DSi39Jg1_QDzFZyl3ShxZFNhM0oE= QFMaJMgLmSbzsw$
>
> "High-speed, low-latency internet with up to 350 Mbps download wh= ile at
> sea. $5,000/mo with a one-time hardware cost of $10,000 for two high > performance terminals."
>
> I know a bunch of yacthies that have been waiting for this, but are > now
> disappointed.
>
> RGDS
> GARY
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -----
> Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703<= br> >        gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 = 541 382 8588
>
>            Veri= tas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?
>    "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it.= " - Lord Kelvin
>
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