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Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 17:17:44 -0000 --_000_BYAPR03MB38634DB51CC74E1B463B7A17C2889BYAPR03MB3863namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That article was referring to the O3b constellation. It looks like they are= hoping to do well with the forthcoming mPower constellation: https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/information-technology/ses-meet-soaring-cru= ise-bandwidth-demand-o3b-mpower But it looks like Starlink is aggressively seeking their business: https://advanced-television.com/2022/06/14/starlink-to-supply-royal-caribbe= an-cruise-ships/ Both seem to think they have the capacity to serve thousands of passengers = on a cruise ship. At what cost? It's cool to see some direct competition. They will compete with OneWeb in = Alaska/Arctic too. [https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/sites/seatrade-cruise.com/files/CRUISE_SES= _SCG_Greg_Martin.jpg] SES to meet soaring cruise bandwidth demand with O3b mPOWER Its next-generation O3b mPOWER satellites going up later this year with Boe= ing and SpaceX will be capable of delivering multi-gigabit connectivity.The= first six of 11 satellites are scheduled for launch in the third quarter. = Service is expected to begin in early 2023. 'There's a lot of excitement ab= out the launch of our new service and the upgrades coming with [mPOWER] ove= r the next six to ... www.seatrade-cruise.com ________________________________ From: Starlink on behalf of David = Fern=E1ndez via Starlink Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 6:41 AM To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink at sea (Larry Press) > Does SES offer marine connectivity? Yes, to Royal Caribbean, through O3b. Or maybe not anymore... https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2014/03/21/r= oyal-caribbeans-oasis-of-the-seas-and-allure-of-the-seas-get-high-speed-int= ernet-upgrade__;!!P7nkOOY!pQeHtQRO4FJjbXUbjSey8UpXsE6jIy6Qcmopz78_pBCXybnSQ= ISefVEqMTcpPFMjzulxwcq7h80A8mdTMlfbJf5SEQ$ David F. > Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 05:46:44 +0000 > From: Larry Press > To: "Gary E. Miller" , David Lang > Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink > Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink at sea > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > > <$50k/month (for all their boats) > > Do they have ten ships? > > >$150k/month with much better service > > Is that for uncapped service from a GEO? What speeds do they get for that= ? > Do GEO folks like Hughes offer SLAs to business customers? > > Does SES offer marine connectivity? > > Russian oligarchs will be early customers. > > Larry Press > > ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Starlink mailing list Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink= __;!!P7nkOOY!pQeHtQRO4FJjbXUbjSey8UpXsE6jIy6Qcmopz78_pBCXybnSQISefVEqMTcpPF= Mjzulxwcq7h80A8mdTMleGfod0Iw$ --_000_BYAPR03MB38634DB51CC74E1B463B7A17C2889BYAPR03MB3863namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That article was referring to the O3b constellation. It looks like they are= hoping to do well with the forthcoming mPower constellation:
http= s://www.seatrade-cruise.com/information-technology/ses-meet-soaring-cruise-= bandwidth-demand-o3b-mpower

But it looks like Starlink is aggressively seeking their business:
https://advanced-television.com/2022/06/14/starlink-to-supply-ro= yal-caribbean-cruise-ships/

Both seem to think they have the capacity to serve thousands of passengers = on a cruise ship. At what cost?

It's cool to see some direct competition. They will compete with OneWeb in = Alaska/Arctic too.



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Its next-generation O3b mPOWER satellites going up later this year with Boe= ing and SpaceX will be capable of delivering multi-gigabit connectivity.The= first six of 11 satellites are scheduled for launch in the third quarter. = Service is expected to begin in early 2023. 'There's a lot of excitement about the launch of our new servi= ce and the upgrades coming with [mPOWER] over the next six to ...
www.seatrade-cruise.com

From: Starlink <starlink= -bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> on behalf of David Fern=E1ndez via Starl= ink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 6:41 AM
To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.ne= t>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink at sea (Larry Press)
 
> Does SES offer marine connectivity?

Yes, to Royal Caribbean, through O3b. Or maybe not anymore...

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2014= /03/21/royal-caribbeans-oasis-of-the-seas-and-allure-of-the-seas-get-high-s= peed-internet-upgrade__;!!P7nkOOY!pQeHtQRO4FJjbXUbjSey8UpXsE6jIy6Qcmopz78_p= BCXybnSQISefVEqMTcpPFMjzulxwcq7h80A8mdTMlfbJf5SEQ$

David F.

> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 05:46:44 +0000
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> Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink at sea
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> <$50k/month (for all their boats)
>
> Do they have ten ships?
>
>  >$150k/month with much better service
>
> Is that for uncapped service from a GEO? What speeds do they get for t= hat?
> Do GEO folks like Hughes offer SLAs to business customers?
>
> Does SES offer marine connectivity?
>
> Russian oligarchs will be early customers.
>
> Larry Press
>
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