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boundary="_000_BYAPR03MB3863736130669024CFE6B9CDC232ABYAPR03MB3863namp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: csudh.edu X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: BYAPR03MB3863.namprd03.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 7f0f3029-ab2a-4d2a-5c85-08db7fbab1a2 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 08 Jul 2023 13:53:22.3426 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 1a66a727-7389-4727-a8cb-f249ac8e7ff8 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: SdKTNQn6gh9VTIHI6hjDNcOvsZK+2aGOu3tqAeevpcGDt2wzVTJ/gweMNkpwLEdLyQWVy4BAiJmoFdiLZjQ+9Q== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM6PR03MB5195 X-Proofpoint-GUID: 35GTdsmOp4JFqXlZO39s-B9dSH-37NM1 X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: 35GTdsmOp4JFqXlZO39s-B9dSH-37NM1 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.254,Aquarius:18.0.957,Hydra:6.0.591,FMLib:17.11.176.26 definitions=2023-07-08_08,2023-07-06_02,2023-05-22_02 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 mlxscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 malwarescore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 bulkscore=0 clxscore=1011 suspectscore=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 priorityscore=1501 spamscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.19.0-2305260000 definitions=main-2307080128 Subject: Re: [Starlink] orbital maneuvers 12 per sat in the last 6 months X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2023 13:53:27 -0000 --_000_BYAPR03MB3863736130669024CFE6B9CDC232ABYAPR03MB3863namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A little more on LeoLabs: https://circleid.com/posts/20201108-satellite-and-space-debris-tracking-as-= a-service Larry ________________________________ From: Starlink on behalf of Mike P= uchol via Starlink Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 6:18 AM To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Starlink] orbital maneuvers 12 per sat in the last 6 months The instruments are what LeoLabs operates - curtain phased-array radars in = various places, which detect and measure objects in orbit as they pass thro= ugh the curtain=92s field - see https://leolabs.space/radars/ They then offer conjuction analysis and warnings to satellite operators und= er contract, based on their catalog of objects and debris. Best, Mike On Jul 7, 2023 at 14:51 +0200, tom@evslin.com, wrote: Great visualization. Dumb question but I can=92t figure it out. What are th= e orange planes labeled =93instruments=94? They are obviously related o the= beams below them but I=92m not sure what they are either. Thank you From: Starlink On Behalf Of Mike P= uchol via Starlink Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 2:35 AM To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Starlink] orbital maneuvers 12 per sat in the last 6 months Profession Hugh Lewis follows Starlink=92s conjuction reports closely, and = writes very detailed threads whenever a report comes up: https://twitter.com/ProfHughLewis Latest thread: https://twitter.com/ProfHughLewis/status/1658173801924812803 If you want an idea of -what- they are avoiding, LeoLabs operates a set of = radars which track anything larger than 10cm in cross-section, and provides= an awesome visualization here: https://platform.leolabs.space/visualization (make sure to enable the =93debris=94 checkbox too) Best, Mike On Jul 7, 2023 at 08:23 +0200, Daniel AJ Sokolov via Starlink >, wrote: On 7/6/23 22:28, blakangel@gmail.com wrote: I think the main point of the article is that the amount of maneuvers needed is currently increasing exponentially: Indeed, I read that. But the article does not explain why they think this trend will continue exponentially. Obviously it can't continue exponentially forever, because eventually all satellites are on the move evading one another 100% of the time. :-) Cheers Daniel _______________________________________________ Starlink mailing list Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink --_000_BYAPR03MB3863736130669024CFE6B9CDC232ABYAPR03MB3863namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A little more on LeoLabs:

https://circleid.com/= posts/20201108-satellite-and-space-debris-tracking-as-a-service

Larry

From: Starlink <starlink= -bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> on behalf of Mike Puchol via Starlink &l= t;starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 6:18 AM
To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.ne= t>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] orbital maneuvers 12 per sat in the last 6 m= onths
 
The instruments are what LeoLabs operates - curtain phase= d-array radars in various places, which detect and measure objects in orbit= as they pass through the curtain=92s field - see https://leolabs.space/radars/ 

They then offer conjuction analysis and warnings to satellite operators und= er contract, based on their catalog of objects and debris.

Best,

Mike
On Jul 7, 2023 at 14:51 +0200, tom@evsl= in.com, wrote:

Great visualization. Dumb question but I can=92t f= igure it out. What are the orange planes labeled =93instruments=94? They ar= e obviously related o the beams below them but I=92m not sure what they are= either.

 

Thank you

 

From: Starlink <starlink-bounces@lists.b= ufferbloat.net> On Behalf Of Mike Puchol via Starlink
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 2:35 AM
To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] orbital maneuvers 12 per sat in the last 6 m= onths

 

Profession Hugh Lewis follows Starlink=92s conjuct= ion reports closely, and writes very detailed threads whenever a report com= es up:

https://twitter.com/ProfHughL= ewis

Latest thread:

ht= tps://twitter.com/ProfHughLewis/status/1658173801924812803

If you want an idea of -what- they are avoiding, LeoLabs operates a set of = radars which track anything larger than 10cm in cross-section, and provides= an awesome visualization here:

https://platform.l= eolabs.space/visualization

(make sure to enable the =93debris=94 checkbox too)

 

Best,

Mike

On Jul 7, 2023 at 08:23 +0200, Daniel AJ Sokolov v= ia Starlink <starlink@= lists.bufferbloat.net>, wrote:


On 7/6/23 22:28, blakangel@gmail.com= wrote:

I think the main point of the article is that the = amount of maneuvers
needed is currently increasing exponentially:


Indeed, I read that. But the article does not explain why they think
this trend will continue exponentially.

Obviously it can't continue exponentially forever, because eventually
all satellites are on the move evading one another 100% of the time. :-)
Cheers
Daniel
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