dear doc:

great article, thx, he’s already most of the way to the right page. Can you introduce us off list?

one hope is we do failover better using the mwan3 tool in openwrt instead of relying on ping but the supplied statistics. 

Another is to get the starwrt codebase up on the supplied router. We already have plenty of qcom IPQ8014 routers under test in openwrt mainline, which is the chipset the starlink router is based on….

… but most of our new work had shifted over the mt76 chipsets and the higher end armada platfoems and there are three large things involving aql, wifi retries, and cake left to make work on the ath10k derived stuff that I’d hoped would make the final build...

public work over here stopped a while back, but we can resume.

https://forum.openwrt.org/t/aql-and-the-ath10k-is-lovely/59002

On Jun 22, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Doc Searls <doc@searls.com> wrote:

When you come on FLOSS Weekly, Jonathan here will be my co-host:


Never mind that he doesn't know about bufferbloat on Starlink. He'll get it. And he's a great dude. You should loop him in. He can be helpful. So can his minions.

Doc

On Jun 21, 2021, at 11:56 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 8:47 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 8:06 AM Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> wrote:

Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
It came up recently that a lot of folk don't like the idea of dropping
packets as a congestion
control mechanism. Like loss or not... the fundamental paper on this
subject is Van Jacobson and Mike Karels:

"On congestion avoidance and control"

http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs244/papers/CongestionControl.pdf

I saved this post a long time ago.
http://www.sandelman.ca/mcr/humour/vanj-enet-posting.txt

From that piece:

"funding agents looking for high speed,
next-generation networks may forget that research to make slow
things go fast sometimes makes fast things go faster".

Recently I dusted off fq_codel_fast in light of the cache misses
finally showing up
in a 100gbit dual bonded scenario over here:

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git/commit/?id=848ca9182a7d25bb54955c3aab9a3a2742bf9678

asked the author to give it a try.





That was a *great* piece of history thx. And he referenced greg
chesson's work on XTP,
( https://grainger.illinois.edu/alumni/distinguished/9560 )

Greg was an early consultant to the bufferbloat project...
he sadly passed before we ever had a chance to jam together.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9795462

There is another one about how he crashed Interop, which I don't know where I
put.

More folk should have seen van's codel preso at ietf 84. It was the
very very early days of webrtc.

https://archive.org/details/video1_20191129

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