In the attached 5 minute plot from a few days ago (I can supply the flent.gz files if anyone wants them), I see a puzzling spike at T+155s to nearly 90ms of baseline latency, then down to 20ms. No degree of orbital mechanics can apply to this change, even factoring in an over the horizon connection, routing packets on the ground through LA to seattle, and back, or using a couple ISLs, can make this add up for me. A combination of all that, kind of does make sense. The trace otherwise shows the sawtooth pattern of a single tcp flow , a loss (sometimes catastrophic) at every downward bandwidth change. An assumption I have long been making is the latency staircase effect (see T+170) forward is achieving the best encoding rate at the distance then seen, the distance growing and the encoding rate falling in distinct steps, with a fixed amount of buffering, until finally that sat starts falling out of range, and it choses another at T+240s. But jeeze, a 70ms baseline latency swing? What gives? I imagine somehow correlating this with a mpls enabled traceroute might begin to make some sense of it, correlated by orbital positions.... -- Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos