Re: [Starlink] apnic piece on starlink

[Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>]

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 9:07 AM David Fernández via Starlink
<starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> 60+ only? Maybe it is this what you are remembering: 437 pages
> https://storage.googleapis.com/x-prod.appspot.com/files/The%20Loon%20Library.pdf

Yes! I wish every project reserved funding towards writing up failure
so eloquently. I had tried, in Nicaragua, in 206-2008
to get IPv6 deployed (tunneling ipv4 over it), and had meant to write
up that set of problems. I was planning to publish the "WISP6"
postmortem in the the 2010 timeframe but got sucked into just working
on bloat.

I had been going instinctively on that enormous list of problems
since, and mostly licked them (or so I thought), in cerowrt by 2014,
not realizing that the wisp market had evolved in an entirely
different direction.





> Do you remember Solar Impulse 2 travel around the world? It had to
> stop and land every five days or so. This is the evolution: Skydweller
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9865021/US-Navy-developing-pilotlesss-solar-powered-plane-fly-90-days-straight.html
>
> The total footprint of a satellite coverage consists of multiple spot
> beams with typical diameters ranging from 200-1000 km in GEO
> deployments, 100-500 km in LEO deployments and 4 – 200 Km for HAPS
> deployment.
>
> Regards,
>
> David
>
> > Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2023 12:38:38 -0700
> > From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
> > To: Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com>
> > Cc: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>,  Dave Taht via Starlink
> >       <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>, George Michaelson <ggm@apnic.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Starlink] apnic piece on starlink
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> >
> > On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 12:07 PM Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink
> > <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Google Spinoff Aalyira salvaged Project Loon technology for US military.
> >>
> >> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/google-spinoff-aalyria-salvages-project-loon-technology-for-the-us-military/amp
> >>
> >> Hesham
> >
> > I did not know that. Loon did one of the greatest post-mortems of any
> > project I had ever read, 60+ pages long, and I cannot find it now.
> >
> >
> > (I love having you all on this list!)
> >>
> >> On Sat, Apr 8, 2023, 11:37 AM Michael Richardson via Starlink
> >> <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> David Lang via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >>>     > Google shuttered project Loon (balloons to do this rather than
> >>> UAVs) in
> >>>     > the last year or two
> >>>
> >>> I heard that too, but also that some external entity then put up some
> >>> money
> >>> and partnered to start it up again.
> >>>
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