From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pl1-x631.google.com (mail-pl1-x631.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::631]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52D8F3B2A4; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 15:00:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pl1-x631.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-1ce28faa92dso1099275ad.2; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 12:00:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1701892815; x=1702497615; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=5BNDhJ0jcGQZkbwKjFSK58N65flQ+y0FppZekAKWi20=; b=Bx9lFHHm4b11VgbvW6qPMbW29MGorD3q/k5BEmaNJGyJ/9Z0ExEjqP238ilgv0XCMO t4tFfw+50fnMgiT3L6/Ruu+HvkKIbKgNm7i/M3h8IuccYuD3ZPaOBLGDIi+odNaMTCUs Jz7DMpXaUAJiPiiJXQwOb6H2Y2Kz2a1H6ok/dwRjLTCTzP6Z9k/Wu2FJrPyhO7qY1AsN IEaNcF8s9fOmIEZBdlFWhi54w4tYiG8CdMOigYAKrVjhL4i3or9H4QnlPwMs1/0EzyAW mXM904uL/wRDdI/iJouT5epgQWEDItFim1AREVu5GuC+3hbv+lGBe2Dgn7iw2NQs1VM3 kbuQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1701892815; x=1702497615; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=5BNDhJ0jcGQZkbwKjFSK58N65flQ+y0FppZekAKWi20=; b=EEeWYFJsItnAVHj7pm1CThUH+QQTRbu+wjNWMK6czgwAdsYTeUA7Yr7w7PHaI934Mp mdc9Ok/L3PrydnM6QGAgQAAt22FWyDnA+zbO9Z3Fo6StR4HjUsnKmuXP77MVpD7ThCoy APgcfdbapLpely6uOnz3qGEZjCysC++dUI35izdT3TTC8mUCT0XtmWQqGT9ac9PSIXwp t4DziuMGDQ4/vcSxOgahfB8WcdvsFWTqZ6KLZW9sbCy9Hycg+jWibWrDMkzW8+rYToMH YfN5h+Vdpz6DUV7BHUtZi4rB6ciq5ChgJDK62R/njyoyDrRymaLL5LHt0exH0jnvcDpB bHrg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxD2kzdVHXFyZvI068r2oUqZFZWI+TL94iI1gONfhs2/PTfVFWe lcdydJMEYMxtZHNsrUlaMzXFH3Vr8cWL/rFts0AvKJnI22Q= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEOEPEXjELqXt3ESyQMZmbd6sfE/4kHoJZWjaW9+6Zb1HM/XfnmML4LFFbVU23UwEGvcZGJomOUCQcFYWYhpQs= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:eca:b0:286:6cc0:b90a with SMTP id gz10-20020a17090b0eca00b002866cc0b90amr1125842pjb.65.1701892814813; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 12:00:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:00:02 -0800 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht via Starlink , bloat , =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspect?= =?UTF-8?Q?s_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Starlink] CFP march 1 - network measurement conference X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 20:00:16 -0000 This CFP looks pretty good to me: https://tma.ifip.org/2024/call-for-papers= / Because: =C2=A8To further encourage the results=E2=80=99 faithfulness and avoid publ= ication bias, the conference will particularly encourage negative results revealed by novel measurement methods or vantage points. All regular papers are hence encouraged to discuss the limitations of the presented approaches and also mention which experiments did not work. Additionally, TMA will also be open to accepting papers that exclusively deal with negative results, especially when new measurement methods or perspectives offer insight into the limitations and challenges of network measurement in practice. Negative results will be evaluated based on their impact (e.g. revealed in realistic production networks) as well as the novelty of the vantage points (e.g. scarce data source) or measurement techniques that revealed them." --=20 :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos